From: muratlanne@gmail.com   
      
   "Snag"  wrote in message news:108r8iq$1p46b$1@dont-email.me...   
      
   On 8/28/2025 8:52 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > On 8/28/2025 6:40 PM, Snag wrote:   
   >>    If we get over 3" of snow here the whole fuckin' county shuts down   
   >   
   > Utah is something.  I rolled in to Salt Lake to join up with an outfit I   
   > worked for in Early September once.  I got a hotel room for the night, and   
   > when I looked out the window in the morning there was snow or ice (not   
   > sure which, but it looked like snow) on all the roof tops.  For Utah, Salt   
   > Lake isn't even cold country.   
   >   
   > In the low lands I'm used to we don't usually even see any jacket weather   
   > until around Halloween.   
   >   
      Useta be that we expected first snow around the opening of deer   
   season , which was the Saturday after October 20th IIRC .   
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   In New England we can only expect the unexpected. We have had a damaging ice   
   storm on Halloween and fine warm weather past New Years. The Jet Stream can   
   bring weather from anywhere from Hudson's Bay to the Gulf of Amexica.   
      
   I was exploring the Black Forest mountains one fine fall until waking up to   
   snow. It seems the Germans expect everyone to be prepared and don't treat   
   the roads with anything damaging like salt. I slid into a ditch when I tried   
   to turn into a gas station to buy better tires. The burly station owner came   
   out and lifted the back end of my VW out of the ditch and onto the road. For   
   me that takes a helper when the engine is loose on blocks. An alternative is   
   raise one side on a curb, a strong guy crawls under the engine, unbolts it   
   and holds it on his chest while others lift and move the car away. An   
   experienced crew can swap engines in three minutes. These were racers, not   
   thieves, doing a practice speed test while I watched to learn. Cutting an   
   upper engine bolt access hole under the rear window helps.   
      
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