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|    Jim Wilkins to All    |
|    Re: Hello??    |
|    30 Sep 25 10:23:12    |
      From: muratlanne@gmail.com              "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m1ikh0xtpk.fsf@void.com...              Look - you can all relate to this in the USA, where many of you are.       The mistake of, whatever terms you apply (all pretty!) - going to war       with Russia was mistaken in concept and in general a questionable       idea...       How did the US powers-that-be get it so wrong?       Russia was supposed to collapse within about 3 weeks after "Pew-tin has       made his final mistake" - and the Russia economy sailed on just fine -       oil-tankers continued to sail; factories continued to produce;       newspapers printed new; people went to work - all no discernable change.       vvv       In Langley, Virginia, if the way to get ahead and switch from barely       making ends meet and having a 2 hour commute to work to a big office,       good salary, residence in a desirable area a short commute to work is to       *>say what the boss wants to hear<* and that has gone on for a couple of       generations - you are going to "press the magic button" and find your       supreme economic weapon - your secret "nuclear option" (sic.) - isn't       even seen by your opponent - you are in an empty room pressing a       brightly coloured button with a lurid label but it is a "placebo"       connected to nothing. You pick it up and find it's just got a       flashlight-cell to make the button light-up - but that it and entirely       it...       --------------------------------------              We certainly aren't immune from bureaucracy's tendency to make their own job       security their main objective, and view the world through the selective       filter of how it supports that goal. Not having possibly hostile and       credible threats on our borders gives us an added luxury to view events as       we want to instead of realistically.              This has been especially true of the party composed of labor lawyers who       lack the skill to tie their shoelaces and argue like kindergarteners. In       international relations they tend to assume that whatever they want will be       the inevitable outcome and don't have a backup plan, like Obama's Line in       the Sand, which turned out to be a yellow piddle trail marking our retreat.       I don't claim that the other party is much better.              International power politics is a master class chess game clouded by random       events where even the best gambits sometimes fail, the leadups to WW1 and       WW2 being good examples. Trump isn't finished yet and shouldn't be judged       too hastily on incomplete evidence.              I purposely rejected an invitation into the Intelligence business. An       example of its politicized yes-man tendency is Curveball, the disgruntled       Iraqi who made up the chemical weapons scenario based on a personal grudge       and was amazed that we swallowed it so easily, mostly for lack of other       timely evidence. We tend to leave Humint, spying, up to Britain or Israel as       the better experts with more historical connections. Saddam himself       mistakenly believed that the CIA would see through his bluster that was       aimed at Iran, not us.              An example on your side is the German Nordpol operation in which they       captured and turned nearly all the agents sent to Holland without raising       British suspicion, even though an agent's code allowed telegraphing       caughtcaughtcaught in the encrypted message to alert his handlers. You had       done the same to their spies.       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englandspiel              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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