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   Message 214,868 of 215,319   
   Snag to Clare Snyder   
   Re: MM vs AA   
   09 Oct 25 22:39:13   
   
   From: Snag_one@msn.com   
      
   On 10/9/2025 10:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   > On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:12:34 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/9/2025 8:22 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:06:08 -0700, Bob La Londe    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 9/30/2025 10:51 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >>>>> Good Soak For Rings In an Engine That's Been Sitting A Long Time???   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When I was a kid everybody said to dump a table spoon of Marvel Mystery   
   >>>>> Oil down each spark plug hole amd let it set for a few days to reduce   
   >>>>> the risk of cracking a ring when you start trying to move the engine.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    From what I've heard and read they changed the formula of the snake   
   oil   
   >>>>> and is not so good anymore. I don't know.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yesterday I heard a new one. Dump a mix of ATF and acetone in, and put   
   >>>>> the spark plug back so the acetone will force the ATF through the rings   
   >>>>> with pressure as it turns to vapor. I've never heard that one before. I   
   >>>>> have some reservations.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I've got a 42 GPW (that was my dads) Jeep with a newer M38 Jeep engine   
   >>>>> that eventually I'd like to sell. Its been parked for 40 years so there   
   >>>>> will certainly be some tendency for the rings to stick. I'd prefer to   
   >>>>> sell as is and let somebody more expert than me deal with it, but I see   
   >>>>> no reason not to do little things to help that happen as time permits.   
   >>>>> Eventually being able to get compression on all cylinders might help...   
   >>>>> unless its bad of course.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Anyway I'd like to hear what you guys know or have heard about soaking   
   >>>>> the rings in a sitting engine before trying to turn it over.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Acetone and ATF were by and large the biggest agent suggested with   
   >>>> Marvel Mystery Oil being a close second.  This doesn't mean Mystery Oil   
   >>>> is still good.  Nearly all of those who said they used it admitted they   
   >>>> have an old can that may not be the same as the new stuff.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Looks like acetone and ATF are the new shade tree mechanic approved   
   >>>> concoction.  I have Acetone and ATF on the shelf.  I don't have any   
   >>>> Marvel Mystery Oil.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> --   
   >>>> Bob La Londe   
   >>>> CNC Molds N Stuff   
   >>>    I still use MMO and have current stock - seams to be the same as what   
   >>> I used 40 and 50 years ago.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>    Have you compared the ingredient list - or msds- between Canadian and   
   >> USA formulations ? A lot of consumer chemicals have been californicated   
   >> in the last few years ... and not for the betterment of the product .   
   >   I have both Canadian and American - was quite some time we could not   
   > buy it here because it didn't have french labels - they are the same -   
   > and the American stuff is about 10 years old   
   >   
      
      Check the label on a container of current production and get back to   
   me ... It's not a product i use very often . I think I've bought 2   
   quarts in the last 30 years or so .   
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   Snag   
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   when they stayed foreign ...   
      
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