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|    Bob La Londe to All    |
|    Re: Make Shift Bead Breaker    |
|    29 Dec 25 08:43:37    |
      From: none@none.com99              On 12/29/2025 7:25 AM, ABLE1 wrote:       > On 12/28/2025 6:38 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:       >> If you hung around shops and work spaces at any time I'm sure you have       >> seen and heard all kinds of things. Yes split rims are as dangerous       >> as they say they are. I never saw one go, but I met a fellow who was       >> leaning over one when it went, and it bounced him off the ceiling 16       >> feet up. Broke a couple ribs, and took the tips off two of his fingers.       >>       >> I'm in the process of slapping some new rubber on the '42 GPW to make       >> it a little easier to roll around the yard. Breaking down the old       >> tires (not split rims) was quite a chore. Nothing work. The bumper       >> jack trick didn't even make the beads break a sweat much less break       >> loose. I bent the lever on the bead breaker on my manual tire changing       >> stand, and the hydraulic bead breaker I bought wasn't (in my opinion)       >> setup right. Over the last few months I played with all of that.       >>       >> The hook feet and the press foot on the air over hydraulic bead       >> breaker were no in a line in the shelf state. Made it impossible to       >> get them in between the bead and the rim. I unbolted the hook feet,       >> and machined 0.180" off of them and it looked a lot better, but I       >> still couldn't get them in between. Not even with a 3lb hammer. I       >> tried hammering in wedges, and that was okay, maybe, but it wasn't       >> enough.       >>       >> Now to be fair those tires have been on those rims well over 40 years       >> in one of the hottest climates on earth. I imagine the rubber is       >> melted and extruded into the pores in the metal.       >>       >> I soaked the bead with penetrating oil, and invented my own slide       >> hammer style breaker bar. I ground the pointy end of my straight pick       >> flat, and slid a post driver over it. BAM! Slide hammer style bead       >> breaker.       >>       >> IT DID NOT BREAK THE BEAD. Maybe if I kept at it way to freaking long       >> it might have, but it did give me enough purchase to drive the       >> hydraulic bead breaker in between. After several presses I was able       >> to get the bead off the bead seat.       >>       >> Then it wouldn't flex enough to come off the rim. My duck foot was a       >> total waste of time. Its fine for soft pliable tires, but this thing       >> was half rock and half rubber band. I had to cut the beads with a       >> sawzall to get it off the rim. That first tire took me well over 3       >> hours. Maybe closer to 4. I had to take a break after that. First I       >> sprayed all the beads with penetrating lube.       >>       >> When I worked up the gumption out back of the shop again, the second       >> tire took me just 30 minutes. It was all the same work, but no wasted       >> work. It actually seamed easier, but 30 minutes to get a tire off a       >> rim is not what I would call easy.       >>       >> The third tire seemed easier than the second, but it took a little       >> longer. I guess I'm getting old.       >>       >> Anyway, if the wedge end isn't to sharp a straight pick and a post       >> driver make a fair slide hammer style bead breaker. I bet it would       >> work pretty good if the tires weren't nearly rock hard and dry rotted       >> in place. A cheap Chinese air over hydraulic bead breaker works       >> pretty good if it can actually get some purchase to do its job.       >>       >> I still haven't dragged the 4th tire over to work on it. I needed to       >> take another break.       >>       >       > Hi Bob,       > For your 4th tire, try placing in the kitchen oven       > for 20 minutes at 250 degrees!! Then beat it again??       >       > Les              My kitchen oven is not quite large enough. I guess this is a good       reason to buy that giant powder coat oven I have always wanted.                     --       Bob La Londe       CNC Molds N Stuff              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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