From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 12/29/2025 9:14 AM, ABLE1 wrote:   
   > On 12/29/2025 10:43 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >> On 12/29/2025 7:25 AM, ABLE1 wrote:   
   >>> On 12/28/2025 6:38 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >>>> If you hung around shops and work spaces at any time I'm sure you   
   >>>> have seen and heard all kinds of things.  Yes split rims are as   
   >>>> dangerous as they say they are.  I never saw one go, but I met a   
   >>>> fellow who was leaning over one when it went, and it bounced him off   
   >>>> the ceiling 16 feet up.  Broke a couple ribs, and took the tips off   
   >>>> two of his fingers.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm in the process of slapping some new rubber on the '42 GPW to   
   >>>> make it a little easier to roll around the yard.  Breaking down the   
   >>>> old tires (not split rims) was quite a chore.  Nothing work.  The   
   >>>> bumper jack trick didn't even make the beads break a sweat much less   
   >>>> break loose. I bent the lever on the bead breaker on my manual tire   
   >>>> changing stand, and the hydraulic bead breaker I bought wasn't (in   
   >>>> my opinion) setup right. Over the last few months  I played with all   
   >>>> of that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The hook feet and the press foot on the air over hydraulic bead   
   >>>> breaker were no in a line in the shelf state.  Made it impossible to   
   >>>> get them in between the bead and the rim.  I unbolted the hook feet,   
   >>>> and machined 0.180" off of them and it looked a lot better, but I   
   >>>> still couldn't get them in between.  Not even with a 3lb hammer.  I   
   >>>> tried hammering in wedges, and that was okay, maybe, but it wasn't   
   >>>> enough.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Now to be fair those tires have been on those rims well over 40   
   >>>> years in one of the hottest climates on earth.  I imagine the rubber   
   >>>> is melted and extruded into the pores in the metal.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I soaked the bead with penetrating oil, and invented my own slide   
   >>>> hammer style breaker bar.  I ground the pointy end of my straight   
   >>>> pick flat, and slid a post driver over it.  BAM!  Slide hammer style   
   >>>> bead breaker.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> IT DID NOT BREAK THE BEAD.  Maybe if I kept at it way to freaking   
   >>>> long it might have, but it did give me enough purchase to drive the   
   >>>> hydraulic bead breaker in between.  After several presses I was able   
   >>>> to get the bead off the bead seat.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then it wouldn't flex enough to come off the rim.  My duck foot was   
   >>>> a total waste of time.  Its fine for soft pliable tires, but this   
   >>>> thing was half rock and half rubber band.  I had to cut the beads   
   >>>> with a sawzall to get it off the rim.  That first tire took me well   
   >>>> over 3 hours.  Maybe closer to 4.  I had to take a break after   
   >>>> that.  First I sprayed all the beads with penetrating lube.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When I worked up the gumption out back of the shop again, the second   
   >>>> tire took me just 30 minutes.  It was all the same work, but no   
   >>>> wasted work.  It actually seamed easier, but 30 minutes to get a   
   >>>> tire off a rim is not what I would call easy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The third tire seemed easier than the second, but it took a little   
   >>>> longer.  I guess I'm getting old.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anyway, if the wedge end isn't to sharp a straight pick and a post   
   >>>> driver make a fair slide hammer style bead breaker.  I bet it would   
   >>>> work pretty good if the tires weren't nearly rock hard and dry   
   >>>> rotted in place.  A cheap Chinese air over hydraulic bead breaker   
   >>>> works pretty good if it can actually get some purchase to do its job.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I still haven't dragged the 4th tire over to work on it.  I needed   
   >>>> to take another break.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Hi Bob,   
   >>> For your 4th tire, try placing in the kitchen oven   
   >>> for 20 minutes at 250 degrees!!  Then beat it again??   
   >>>   
   >>> Les   
   >>   
   >> My kitchen oven is not quite large enough.  I guess this is a good   
   >> reason to buy that giant powder coat oven I have always wanted.   
   >   
   > Glad I could help with the purchase of your next toy!!   
      
      
   Now that I have put out several thousand dollars based on your   
   recommendation... How exactly does it help with that tire problem?   
      
      
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