From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 1/22/2026 9:47 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > On 1/21/2026 11:50 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >> My CNC machines have limited work envelopes.  As a result I have   
   >> modified a number of screwless vises to maximize use of the work   
   >> envelope.  3 are 6.6 x 11.8 and only after I reconfigured the   
   >> software. I long ago figured out a modified 5 inch vise with jaws   
   >> machined back or other modifications worked best for y, and a 6 inch   
   >> was an "okay compromise for X.  In fact a pair of 5 screwless vises   
   >> modified to match would give the most working envelope.  I only have   
   >> one five inch screwless vise.  I've been using six inch on the other   
   >> two machines.   
   >>   
   >> Technically they are 4.72 (120mm) wide by 5.91 (150mm) jaw opening.   
   >> In the past I have just machined away part of the jaws, to provide   
   >> wide opening, and small step jaw, and clearance for through holes in   
   >> mold plates.  I think this time I'll do it differently.  Machine a   
   >> grove on the flat tops of the jaws to add a secondary jaw.  Z height   
   >> is limited on the smaller machines, but since I am almost exclusively   
   >> machining plate no thicker than an inch it shouldn't be an issue to   
   >> raise the work piece a little.  If I do have to work on somethign   
   >> outside my normal scope I am charging extra for it anyway, so taking   
   >> down the default setup is not a big deal.   
   >>   
   >> I have been wanting some screwless vises in this size class for a   
   >> while, but they all seem to be over priced compared to smaller and   
   >> even some bigger options.  A while back I found some from Tormach of   
   >> all places. I put six of them in my shopping cart and saw I qualified   
   >> for free basic shipping.  I didn't want to spend the time, and I   
   >> forgot about them. Yesterday I was looking up something else on the   
   >> Tormach website and saw they were still in my shopping cart, still a   
   >> great price, and still free shipping.  I figured I better get them   
   >> while they were still available.   
   >>   
   >> Now I might have some use for that surface grinder Jim was talking   
   >> about, or maybe I'll just mill them and call it good enough.   
   >>   
   >> Anyway, the main point of this post was to let you guys know about   
   >> them if any of you have a use. https://tormach.com/120mm-toolmaker-   
   >> vise- screwless-33111.html   
   >>   
   >> Its a good enough price I was tempted to buy extras, and wait for them   
   >> to run out, then resell them on FleaBay.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
      
   > *** I am letting you guys know so you have a chance to snatch one up if   
   > it would be useful for you.  Years ago, in the hardware business I ran   
   > across a listing for a CVA 12ga shotgun in our hardware catalog   
   > (TrueValue/CoterCo) for $25.  The next cheapest regular 12ga at the time   
   > was costing us around 50-60 dollars and we sold them in the hardware   
   > store for 89.95.  79.95 for five at a time to the farms for pet   
   > management and depredation management.   
      
   PEST management.  LOL.   
      
   To be fair we used to have a wild dog problem back then too.  It was   
   hard to manage because domestic pets would occasionally run with the   
   wild packs.  The worst of the "wild" dogs were solo hunters, and often   
   those turned out to be wild pets.  I once spent two days (not like full   
   time tracking him.  LOL) hunting down an owner to ask permission to kill   
   his dog because it was breaking in and killing chickens.  I could have   
   just sat on the coop and waited with out permission, but it was easier,   
   faster, and safer to just track down the dog and shoot it in open country.   
      
   > At the time CVA was known for   
   > their black powder gun kits.  As far as we knew that was all they sold.   
   > I ordered one through the hardware store for myself to check it out, and   
   > it was decent.  It had one very minor flaw.  They pin that locked the   
   > forend in place just went onto a hole in the wood forend.  I drilled   
   > mine out, and pressed in a piece of rigid copper tube.  Problem solved.   
   > We decided it was good enough for the farms, and my dad decided to every   
   > one they had in stock.  They were all gone.   
   >   
   > There are either of two options about a deal that seams to good to be true.   
   > 1.  It probably is.   
   > 2.  It will be gone before you get a second chance.   
   >   
      
      
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   Bob La Londe   
   CNC Molds N Stuff   
      
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