From: null@void.com   
      
   Hello all   
   Trying to start off with a modest post...   
   About 5 days ago I first tried interacting with an AI (an "Artificial   
   Intelligence").   
   I had "blanked" the subject with having other things to do; but a   
   headline "Chinese coal-mine transforms productivity with AI" had me   
   think the time to look at the subject had arrived.  Hence...   
   Went with "Deepseek" because of received opinion that the Chinese AI's   
   are very good at technical things and are already widely used for   
   process optimisation.   
      
   I went with finding out how the science, technology and commercial   
   application had progressed in the 26 to 30 years since doing my   
   research.   
      
   It was amazing.  Finding out what "won out".   
      
   As I settled-in, conversing with the AI, I held a mental check that   
   this is an AI - but in the second by second interaction the only thing   
   that reminded me of that was how much information it had, the range of   
   sources seemingly irrespective of language, etc.   
   eg. to finally see what TMCP (Thermo-Mechanically   
   Controlled-Processed) plate rolling mills look like, it gave me some   
   search terms in Chinese.  Those links I pasted into the browser   
   brought up pictures (answer: they look sort of like a "normal" rolling   
   mill, but are a vast size in order to be able to apply the forces to   
   do big per-pass reductions at blood-red down to cherry-red   
   temperature).   
   I did query some parts of the answers it gave, and it came back with   
   more layers of depth to the answer regarding those things, and   
   describing the simplification for brevity it had done previously.   
   Very interesting.   
      
   Yesterday I asked the AI about aluminium MIG / aluminum GMAW welds.   
   The conditions it came back with were nothing like I have found good -   
   for too little power.  That I queried.  I cited my heat-input in   
   kJ/mm, and it came back describing what my welds must be like.  It was   
   correct.  It went on to become a big discussion about power, "spray"   
   vs. "pulse", etc.   
      
   This brings-up "the Turing test", doesn't it?   
   Is there any way for the person at a terminal to know if it is a   
   person or a computer on the other side?  Can you make it reveal   
   characteristics which tell you that?   
   The nature of the discussion meant that it was only a remote "mental   
   note" that this is an AI which prevented me from "being drawn-in".   
      
   It did make me laugh a couple of times, with the observations it made   
   about the human nature behind technical issues.   
      
   I will leave it at that for now.   
   I don't know how this fits on the generally-used scale   
   walks on water <=> passes water   
      
   If any has any questions I will try to answer.   
      
   My overall perception I pass-on should it be of interest is -   
   certainly this AI works.   
      
   Best wishes,   
   Rich S   
      
   PS one thing the AI told me - all around the world, regardless of   
   language, welders conjure-up "verbal images" with identical meanings   
   about welds - "sweet-spot", "window" and "{on a} knife-edge" are three   
   it cited.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)