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|    Snag to Bob La Londe    |
|    Re: Small Engine Tach/Speed/Clearance- S    |
|    08 Feb 26 15:09:58    |
      From: Snag_one@msn.com              On 2/8/2026 2:32 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:       > I pulled one of the kids old yard karts around on the slab behind the       > shop. My thought was to get it running again to be used as a rolling       > speed bump.       >       > The carb was shot, it has terrible ground clearnace, and my other       > solutions lead me to wanting to put an easy to ready analog tach on it.       >       > Here is where my thought process is so far.       >       > Intruder II 7hp Subaru EX21       >       > Mostly about the EX21. I'm getting ready to swap over VM22 style carbs       > with high flow muffler on straight header, and there is no way to       > connect the governor. This is background only. Not seeking feedback on       > that.       >       > The engines are actually very low hours. We never let the kids run the       > karts unsupervised.       >       > Looking to connect reasonably large tach to engine. These engines do       > have a lighting circuit, but maybe not a proper charging system (dual       > front lights on cart).       >       > Looking at the cheap import CX8150 Tachometer. It looks like I might       > just be able to wrap the signal wire around the spark plug wire and get       > enough induction to trigger the tach. I am wondering about powering the       > tach.       >       > 1. I'm not above just putting a couple 6 or 9 volt alkaline batteries       > in series to power the tach (and gps speedometer), but does the unit       > require a common ground with the engine?       >       > 2. What exactly is the lighting circuit putting out? Could I power the       > tach from that? The tach says the power input is 9-72VDC, but if the       > lighting circuit is unregulated AC that could be an issue.       > Kids driving could easily over rev, but my kids are not kids anymore,       > and I learned to drive by the tach myself growing up.       >       > Yes, I know heavier springs will reduce valve float, but then you need a       > better CAM to reduce CAM wear, then you actually start to need a billet       > fly wheel and connecting rod to prevent the engine from coming apart at       > higher RPM, etc, etc, etc... I think the easy answer is to just keep an       > eye on the TACH and if it blows it blows.       >       > Intruder II Ground Clearance       >       > The Intruder II karts have only a few inches ground clearance under the       > axle sprocket. It's pretty well designed for fun speed and       > acceleration, but its more a yard kart as configured than an OHV kart.       > I'd like to get more ground clearance. Larger tires only works if you       > increase power or change the gearing. Changing the gearing generally       > means a larger sprocket on the axle which takes back some of that ground       > clearance.       >       > I was thinking maybe add an intermediate jack shaft between the CVT and       > the axle. Turn the CVT up and my own back plate out of heavier aluminum       > plate. I have plenty on hand I make aluminum molds. Then drive an       > intermediate jack shaft with the CVT and axle sprockets, and got with a       > much smaller one to one sprocket from the jack shaft to the axle. This       > gives me even more room to play with gearing if need be, and any ground       > clearance from moving the suspension or increasing tire size is actually       > available.       >       > I know at that level of fabrication its "almost" worth just building a       > purpose built kart, but not quite.       >       > I'm pretty sure there will be some loss from the extra drive hardware,       > but I am already improving engine air flow with a VM22 style carb and a       > header. I'm not looking to change it from a 25-30MPH kart into a 40 MPH       > kart. I am looking at getting more ground clearance at about the same       > speed.       >       > What am I missing?       >       >       >       >               I like the jack shaft idea . Gives you a LOT of latitude for gearing .       Will you really need to alter the height if that axle sprocket is smaller ?        I'm getting the ATV I got from a neighbor ready for firewood       harvesting duty . It's no bigger than the JD 317 yard tractor and it's       much more nimble . I've got the racks front and rear plus a receiver       hitch so I can take my big trailer close then use the little one to       ferry the rounds out of the woods .       --       Snag        I appreciated foreign cultures more       when they stayed foreign ...              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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