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|    David Billington to Bob La Londe    |
|    Re: Brazing carbide    |
|    20 Feb 26 20:04:48    |
      From: djb@invalid.com              On 20/02/2026 19:19, Bob La Londe wrote:       > On 2/17/2026 8:52 PM, Snag wrote:       >> I'm going to try my hand at brazing new carbide on some chipped       >> and worn boring bars for my mill . I have 3 choices for heat source ,       >> O/A , TIG , or my induction heater . I also have a couple of choices       >> for braze filler , phosphor bronze TIG filler , regular brazing rod ,       >> and silver solder if I can find mine . I also have some brass wire ,       >> composition unknown and a few sticks of silphos , though I don't know       >> if that will stick to steel . I also have both borax and regular       >> brazing flux .       >>       >> The plan is to heat and remove the old/broken insert , apply flux       >> and a thin piece of brazing filler topped with a new carbide piece ,       >> and heat to brazing temp . After watching a couple of youtube videos       >> it looks like I may need to hold the new carbide in place as it       >> heats/ cools , I'll probably use a piece of SS TIG filler for that .       >>       >> I just realized that I can replace the carbide teeth on the face       >> mill that came with my milling machine . I tried to sharpen the       >> cutters on the lathe , turned out less than optimum . If I do that       >> I'll use the indexing device I built for sharpening end mills to       >> sharpen them . Might try that to even them up , might turn out I       >> don't need to replace them right away .       >>       >> Thoughts on heat source and filler selections ?       >       >       > A quick read tells me silver solder 45% silver or higher is considered       > "best".       >       > Silfos (typically 15) is for copper to copper or copper to bronze. I       > have a couple pieces I used for soldering copper tube on an AC unit.       > Silfos is nice for copper as it is supposed to be self fluxing, making       > out of position work easier in theory. In reality I only got good       > joints on the bench.       >       > Brass can work, but it doesn't stick to the carbide as well as silver.       >       > I have a small section of 45% silver solder around somewhere and I can       > tell you it was expensive. I bought it at the a local welding store,       > the better one, that doesn't usually gouge me. It was NOT good enough       > for repairing band saw blades. But there should be no flex in your       > carbide to steel connection. If you want it you know how to reach me,       > to remind me of your address. (If I can find it.)       >       > There are light fluxes and dark fluxes, and I think those with boron       > (black brazing flux) is best, but borax might be a poor man's       > alternative. They use borax at forging temperatures afterall, (and       > for some heat treating operations) so it probably won't burn off.       >       > Some I recalled, some I got from an old This Old Tony Video, and some       > I double checked using Goggle's AI search function.       >       >       >              Sounds like to old go to Easyflo no2 at about 50% would do it or its       Cadmium free alternative at about 55%. I have some in various sizes and       it will roll out to a thin strip if you have a rolling mill although if       required really thin it'll need annealing and I've used it for this type       of job where I wanted a thin shim of solder in place in the joint.              I haven't tried to use it to repair a broken bandsaw blade but have read       that it should be suitable if a scarf joint is used.              I have suitable flux for use with the silver solder for tool tips and       stainless steel.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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