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|    Snag to Bob La Londe    |
|    Re: Brazing carbide    |
|    20 Feb 26 22:26:00    |
      From: Snag_one@msn.com              On 2/20/2026 1:19 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:       > On 2/17/2026 8:52 PM, Snag wrote:       >> I'm going to try my hand at brazing new carbide on some chipped and       >> worn boring bars for my mill . I have 3 choices for heat source , O/A       >> , TIG , or my induction heater . I also have a couple of choices for       >> braze filler , phosphor bronze TIG filler , regular brazing rod , and       >> silver solder if I can find mine . I also have some brass wire ,       >> composition unknown and a few sticks of silphos , though I don't know       >> if that will stick to steel . I also have both borax and regular       >> brazing flux .       >>       >> The plan is to heat and remove the old/broken insert , apply flux       >> and a thin piece of brazing filler topped with a new carbide piece ,       >> and heat to brazing temp . After watching a couple of youtube videos       >> it looks like I may need to hold the new carbide in place as it heats/       >> cools , I'll probably use a piece of SS TIG filler for that .       >>       >> I just realized that I can replace the carbide teeth on the face       >> mill that came with my milling machine . I tried to sharpen the       >> cutters on the lathe , turned out less than optimum . If I do that       >> I'll use the indexing device I built for sharpening end mills to       >> sharpen them . Might try that to even them up , might turn out I don't       >> need to replace them right away .       >>       >> Thoughts on heat source and filler selections ?       >       >       > A quick read tells me silver solder 45% silver or higher is considered       > "best".       >       > Silfos (typically 15) is for copper to copper or copper to bronze. I       > have a couple pieces I used for soldering copper tube on an AC unit.       > Silfos is nice for copper as it is supposed to be self fluxing, making       > out of position work easier in theory. In reality I only got good       > joints on the bench.       >       > Brass can work, but it doesn't stick to the carbide as well as silver.       >       > I have a small section of 45% silver solder around somewhere and I can       > tell you it was expensive. I bought it at the a local welding store,       > the better one, that doesn't usually gouge me. It was NOT good enough       > for repairing band saw blades. But there should be no flex in your       > carbide to steel connection. If you want it you know how to reach me,       > to remind me of your address. (If I can find it.)       >       > There are light fluxes and dark fluxes, and I think those with boron       > (black brazing flux) is best, but borax might be a poor man's       > alternative. They use borax at forging temperatures afterall, (and for       > some heat treating operations) so it probably won't burn off.       >       > Some I recalled, some I got from an old This Old Tony Video, and some I       > double checked using Goggle's AI search function.       >       >       >               I have some silver solder I bought expressly for repairing/making       bandsaw blades . Haven't seen it in several years ... I'll look into       getting some more (*wallet gonna take a hit) as well as some black flux       . There's no rush , this is one of those "one of these days when I get a       wild hare" projects .        OK just ordered some 47% silver solder (old stuff with cadmium) and       some black flux . Bet y'all a nickel the solver solder I already have       shows up before the stuff I just ordered arrives ... the damn flux cost       twice what the silver solder (10 feet of .016/26 ga wire) cost , but I'd       bet it's more than a lifetime supply for me in both cases .        *I don't worry too much about cost these days . My wants/needs are       simple and for the most part well under a hundred bucks . About the only       thing I run past the wife (got one of the rare "good ones") is guns or       tools over a couple hundred .       --       Snag        I appreciated foreign cultures more       when they stayed foreign ...              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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