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|    Jim Wilkins to All    |
|    Re: Brazing carbide    |
|    23 Feb 26 23:08:31    |
      From: muratlanne@gmail.com              "David Billington" wrote in message news:10nic1b$39582$1@dont-email.me...              It occurred to me when I was posting that last reply that you have to       deal with your electrical energy budget issues and that might make you       favour a different solution if available, not something I have to think       about so much with a 240V 32A supply in the workshop, more in the house.              Looks to be a nice furnace but what you have must be a lower temperature       model. 1500C would likely be a Mullite liner and SiC elements. AIUI SiC       are fairly easy to control with a phase angle controller and take care       of the change in resistance while heating and element ageing. MoSi2       elements get more involved due to their characteristics but not       required for 1500C usage.              I'd not heard of type P before as never run across one. Here in the       UK/Europe R and S are common for higher temperature applications, it       seems often US made stuff uses larger gauge K type to provide longer       life at elevated temperatures. For the Gallenkamp I use a K, the other       furnace I have an N type as more durable at the higher temperatures I       may have been using as that one goes to 1300C or would do if I replaced       the elements as they're old but it does what I require currently and       will make 1100C if needed.              Reseating socketed chips is one I use as well. I've saved a woman I know       quite a bit of money as when one of her temperature controllers gave a       thermocouple failure alarm I asked if she had pulled the guts and       reseated them, she wasn't aware you could do so RTFM. Others offered to       sell her a replacement. The Cal Controls ones I and she use and maybe       other makes allow the guts to be pulled from the panel mounting which       wipes the contacts and they had just become oxidised as only solder       coated so that was all that was required to get it working again, it's       now part of her yearly service routine. I've seen banks of them on       plastic extruder lines so the ability to hot swap the controller guts is       useful, saves having to pull the panel apart. IIRC those were on RS485       so the settings could be re-established remotely.              ---------------------------       I have 200A at 120/240V available if I want to pay for it, this house was       built with electric heat for the promised cheap nuclear power we would soon       enjoy. My retirement hobby is alternate energy and I practice living on it       as much as is reasonable, and recording the usage.              The tube furnace may be the lower temperature model, labels are gone. I       grabbed the first picture I saw. The missing original controller was       apparently analog with optical sensing of the needle, and calibrated for       type K, so the P t/c is a close but not exact match. Like much of my stuff       it's from the 1960's.              All my (second-hand) industrial temperature controllers can be removed from       the panel mount, mostly to change switch settings such as t/c type. I use       some as remote displays of the wood stove. The surplus store sold regular       wire cheaply by the pound, t/c wire expensively by the foot. When I       explained that the X meant extension wire not suited for making       thermocouples they gave me the per pound price on several large spools of       shielded and grounded KX which isn't good for much else, and I ran it around       the house.              Omega literature suggests using 14 gauge type K for longer life at high       temperature. I think R and S are more for short runs within the instrument       in the lab.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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