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From: res0o9ai@verizon.net
You would ask for internal affairs...they MIGHT give you a name. OR you file
a lawsuit againt the officer and then his name MUST be given...but there are
very harsh penalties that you are going to accrue since they nearly NEVER
find against th cop (this would impede their freedom of action in the eyes
of the law) and he has strong rights under the law to counter sue with
inflated penalties towwards you...this is done to prevent people from
attacking them as an individual.
Cops have bad attitudes...comes with the job and the people they are exposed
to and it is a fact that if you do not pass the "attitude" test then you are
gonna get the blunt end of the stick...I would recommend taking it on the
chin and let it go.
Now for the rant:
I both know cops personally and have been abused by a few...I live in a bad
area and I can tell you that cops have a mind set. They think of themselves
as warriors and while technically servants of the public they view you the
citizen, each and every one, as a potential "bad-guy" They will vociferously
deny this but it is a simple fact.
Also look at the type of person that becomes an officer...generally they are
the school bully or power freak. Argue with me all you want cops, but that
is what I believe you are and Psych studies support me on this. You get paid
to bust heads and hurt people...period. Keeping the peace is an incidental
by-product of your calling. French cops are really professional as are most
northern european cops...I have lived in those contrioes (France, Denmark,
Canada) and they do not act like American cops...they are polite first and
head busters a distant second. I respect them in a way I cannot respect
American cops. Those officers really want to help...but are forceful when
need be...more than respect...I trust them. Who but a wealthy man living in
a nice neighborhood trusts a cop here in California? In Belmont Shore...a
ritzy part of town where I live they are coprdial...3 miles away in Long
Beach...a rougher place they are azzholes...I watched one cop TORTURE a
gunshot victim by stepping on the exit wound on his leg...he was part of a
drug deal gone bad so not really innocent but TORTURE?!?!?!
explain that....
"Cory Dunkle" wrote in message
news:x1GdnfUmQJebSZ6iXTWJjA@comcast.com...
> Steve Furbish wrote:
> > "Cory Dunkle" wrote in message
> > news:g5CdnXom-6J0zWajXTWJhA@comcast.com...
> >> Steve Furbish wrote:
> >>>>>> Instead of being like every other punk-ass cop in this group and
> >>>>>> bitching about how I didn't report it how about you tell me
> >>>>>> _how_ I report it and _what_ to do? I've asked several times,
> >>>>>> and I'm
> >>>>>> always ignored. Tell me _who_ exactly I call, and _what_ exactly
> >>>>>> I am to do to find out who it was that harassed me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want hand-holding then you ought to be a bit nicer to start
> >>>>> with.
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, you dodge my question. Perhaps you are just trying to
> >>>> protect your fellow officers from being held responsible for their
> >>>> actions.
> >>>
> >>> That tactic didn't work for John Menso either, Cory. It's not
> >>> necessarily a dodge when one fails to respond positively to a venom
> >>> filled query like yours.
> >>
> >> I only use such derogatory comments after plenty have been dished
> >> out to me. You went too far and keep pushing, so of course I'm going
> >> to get frustrated with your poor attitude and respond accordingly.
> >
> > I guess by "went too far and keep pushing" you must mean that I don't
> > buy your BS?
>
> No, it's your poor attitude and childish response.
>
> >>> I'd like to think that your question was
> >>> rhetorical since it should be a whole lot easier for you to figure
> >>> out what agency you dealt with that fateful night than it is for me.
> >>> You didn't seem like a stupid fellow in the beginning so I'll assume
> >>> that you're just "playing dumb"?
> >>
> >> I don't know how to figure that out. So please, tell me who I call
> >> to track down the perp.
> >
> > That would vary from agency to agency, but almost every department
> > I've ever had dealings with had at least one person who accepts and
> > investigates citizen complaints.
>
> My point is that in most cases when I boserve this behavior I do not know
> waht department the vehicle is from, and therefore cannot simply call
> information and ask for a particular police department.
>
> > Unfortuantely for you that's not
> > often the chief himself and it rarely helps to go in with a chip on
> > your shoulder. You should politely present your "facts" to the person
> > assigned to field your complaint and request progress notifications
> > if they're not automatically offered. It also helps to be realistic
> > about your expectations. If you're looking to change undesireable
> > behavior so that it doesn't occur again then a complaint to the
> > department might be the proper avenue to present your grievances. If,
> > however, you're looking for personal satisfaction and/or monetary
> > relief you'll probably need to file a lawsuit and for that you'll
> > likely need the competent legal advice of a good attorney. Having the
> > officer's job based on a single incident where the most serious
> > allegation is an allegedly coerced search would be an unrealistic
> > goal IMHO.
>
> Most of all I want the reckless behavior cops typically exhibit to stop.
> Next up I would like cops to be subject to the same laws as everyone else
> while on duty unless on call (i.e. exceed the speed limit and the cop gets
a
> ticket), but even when on call they should not drive recklessly.
>
> >>> Perhaps in Jersey you'll get positive results calling a "pig" or a
> >>> "whiny bitch", but where I'm from that won't gain you loads of
> >>> respect. So I guess you're right - if you want to act that way then
> >>> I don't think you're worth my time. If, OTOH, you have a legitimate
> >>> question and you ask politely I'd be only too happy to try and
> >>> answer if I'm able.
> >>
> >> I never referred to you as a pig or a whiny bitch. You got touchy and
> >> interpreted my calling a cop who recklessly endangered my life as
> >> well as the lives of other innocent motorists a pig as a personal
> >> insult towards you. It was not such and I explained that to you
> >> after your vicious response, furthermore I did not react in a
> >> vindictive manner, but rather politely tried to explain that I meant
> >> you no offense and what not referring to you. You continued to dish
> >> out rude and inappropriate, as well as prejudiced comments towards
> >> me after that presumably because you disagree with my opinions.
> >
> > Whatever...
>
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