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   Catfish to glog   
   Re: ****Jelly donut News: Woman pleads g   
   27 Jul 03 14:40:20   
   
   XPost: alt.drugs.psychedelics, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.rfg   
   XPost: rec.drugs.psychedelic   
   From: catfish_rivers@yahoo.com   
      
   On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 07:11:02 GMT, glog  wrote:   
      
   >Once upon a timeless moment,   
   >Frederick Burroughs  hallucinated:   
   >> "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> Frederick Burroughs wrote:   
   >>> > "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> >>    The way this is looked at is the toxicity of the LSD caused the   
   >>> >> panic attack, which caused the heart attack, and therefore the   
   >>> >> toxicity of the LSD killed him. This is the why of the murder   
   >>> >> charge. Note also I used the term "direct toxicity death" rather   
   >>> >> than "overdose death." The evidence indeed was that it was an   
   >>> >> LSD-induced panic attack/bad trip that triggered the heart attack,   
   >>> >> and this wasn't a gross overdose. Still, the LSD is what killed him.   
   >>> >   
   >>> > I have no doubt an LSD panic attack can be dangerous for someone with   
   >>> > a serious heart condition.  But, to blame it on toxicity is a   
   >>> > stretch.  The damage to the heart muscle wasn't due to any LSD   
   >>> > toxicity.  The physical stress that caused the heart attack may be the   
   >>> > result of psychological stress brought on by the LSD.   
   >>>   
   >>>    And, psychological stress results from toxicity of LSD on the brain.   
   >>> Looked at medically, what around here is called "tripping" medically is   
   >>> the manifestation of the toxic effects of LSD on the brain. Remember,   
   >>> being high is called being "intoxicated".   
   >>   
   >> Then say "stress related to LSD intoxication," not "direct toxicity   
   >> death case."  You open yourself to misinterpretation.  My immediate   
   >> thought was the deceased had been given a hugh quantity of LSD.  Also,   
   >> it would be more accurate to say tripping is the manifestation of the   
   >> "intoxicating" effects of LSD on the brain, since this is one of the   
   >> generally accepted definitions of the word.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >In other words, if someone diabetic eats a jelly donut, and gives him   
   >a sugar high, which causes and altered state resembling mental   
   >illness, which gives him a panic attack, which causes his heart to   
   >crap out on him, its a "jelly donut toxicity death".   
   >   
      
   I think it's called Jelliosis.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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