XPost: alt.drugs.psychedelics, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.rfg   
   XPost: rec.drugs.psychedelic   
   From: be@here.now   
      
   Once upon a timeless moment,   
   BilZ0r  hallucinated:   
   > Matthew Isleb  wrote in   
   > news:pan.2003.12.13.19.40.22.883298@NO.SPAMonshore.com:   
   >   
   >>>> Why is a dream not psychotic?   
   >>>   
   >>>    I know you are stupid based on your previous posts. But really,   
   >>> dreams mean someone is psychotic?   
   >>   
   >> It wasn't a rhetorical question. I am curious about what Bilzor thinks   
   >> is the distinction between a dream and a drug induced hallucination.   
   >> Why is the latter psychotic and the former not? Hell, why is any   
   >> hallucination necessarily psychotic?   
   >>   
   >> -matthew   
   >   
   > This is the definition of psychosis I use.   
   >   
   > A mental disorder characterised by gross impairment in reality testing   
      
   The question is then when one does DMT does it cause a "gross   
   impairment in reality testing". Are you aware many are able to   
   distunguish that that their hallucinations are not part of this   
   physical world?   
      
   > as   
   > evidenced by delusions, hallucinations, markedly incoherent speech or   
   > disorganised and agitated behaviour without apparent awareness on the   
   > part of the patient of the incomprehensibility of his behaviour,   
      
   So psychosis is *behavioural*. Does everyone who does DMT *act*   
   psychotically??   
      
   > the term   
   > is also used in a more general sense to refer to mental disorders in   
   > which mental functioning is sufficiently impaired as to interfere grossly   
   > with the patients capacity to meet the ordinary demands of life.   
   >   
   > if you were dreaming all of the time, and hallucinating (in the lines of   
   > DMT all the time) you would be psychotic (and catatonic in the first   
   > instance).   
   >   
   > While under the influence of DMT, I think it would be safe to say that   
   > you are in a "drug induced psychosis".   
   >   
      
   What if one doesn't experience "gross impairment in reality testing"   
   and resulting psychotic behaviour that you seem to think everyone   
   would experience on DMT. Are shamans doing ayahuasca rituals simply   
   under a "drug induced psychosis"??   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)