XPost: alt.drugs.psychedelics, alt.drugs, alt.drugs.rfg   
   XPost: rec.drugs.psychedelic   
   From: rfgdxm@SPAMSUCKSmochamail.com   
      
   Frederick Burroughs wrote:   
   > "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" wrote:   
      
   >>    I was around in the mid-1970s. Few I encountered thought PCP   
   >> didn't produce hallucinations and bizarre mental states. Which is   
   >> the common definition of "psychedelic" to this day.   
   >   
   > PCP treated marijuana was popular in suburban Washington D.C. around   
   > this same time.  As it was commonly used, at low to moderate doses,   
   > smoked, the effects weren't considered to be psychedelic by any of my   
   > friends.  We didn't call it a trip as we did with LSD, we just called   
   > it getting high.  It was a very comfortable, floating sensation; a   
   > definite dissociation.  A favorite pastime was to go to the   
   > neighborhood pool and fly off the high-dive.  Nothing like falling   
   > through the air in slow motion, then plunge through a radical   
   > phase-change as you hit the water.  A rush, as we used to say.   
      
      From what you write above, notably that you and your friends were LSD   
   users, this tends to suggest to me that you were using as a definition of   
   "trip" (which is the term to describe being on a psychedelic drug) meaning   
   "like LSD". The general populace defines "psychedelic" as a drug that causes   
   hallucinations and bizarre mental states. And moving the discussion of the   
   use of terms to just PCP users, my observation has been that probably most   
   of them never had used LSD. Thus they'd have to use a phenomenological   
   definition ("a drug that causes hallucinations and bizarre mental states"),   
   since they couldn't use the ostensive definition "like LSD".   
      
      Can anyone familiar with the old scene of Grateful Dead concerts comment   
   on how popular PCP use was at these concerts? If it wasn't very popular,   
   this would tend to indicate the overlap between the LSD and PCP users wasn't   
   all that great. This could result in a significant difference in the   
   nomenclature these groups used.   
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