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   Marmaduke Jinks to All   
   Re: Repeating Numbers?   
   06 Jun 23 18:20:11   
   
   From: Jinks@Totopoly.co.uk   
      
   Nigel, yes, you're right.   
      
   I recalculated it at 0.495 (49.5%).   
      
   The cell in my Excel sheet, containing the number of draws, was stuck in the   
   wrong position.   
      
   I shall now go and have a cup of tea ;-)   
      
   MJ   
      
   "nigel"  wrote in message   
   news:VFSdnZ4qVaGQvOL5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   > Marmaduke Jinks wrote:   
   >   
   >> Interestingly the mode for repeating numbers shows as 1 (i.e. the last   
   >> draw).   
   >   
   > I think that's deceptive.   
   >   
   > For a 6/59 lottery, Hypgeomdist(0,6,6,59) = 0.5095, so most draws will not   
   > contain a ball from the previous draw.   
   >   
   > Nigel   
   >   
   >>   
   >> 61% of the time a number from the last draw will repeat.  The Jinks WLC   
   >> chose the last 4 draws in order to get his selections.  The mode for   
   >> numbers repeating from the last 4 is 3 (i.e. 3 numbers from the last 4   
   >> will re-occur).   
   >>   
   >> MJ   
   >>   
   >> "nigel"  wrote in message   
   >> news:5JudnTEzEOjnJuD5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   >>   
   >>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any   
   >>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws   
   >>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.   
   >>>   
   >>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since   
   >>>have been poor.   
   >>>   
   >>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is   
   >>>predicted in the NY Lotto.   
   >>>   
   >>>Meh!   
   >>>   
   >>>Nigel   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>"nigel"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Hi MJ,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>Hi Nigel   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>I haven't looked at combinations in that way.  I'm sort of drifting   
   >>>>>>away   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>from looking at the Lotto too deeply.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4   
   >>>>>>board   
   >>>>>>(10*6 though).  Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the   
   >>>>>>missing   
   >>>>>>hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations   
   >>>>>>here   
   >>>>>>though like you said?).  Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did   
   >>>>>>my 11   
   >>>>>>as Hotpick1s and won £6 but a loss overall.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the   
   >>>>>>6/59   
   >>>>>>game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span   
   >>>>>>of a   
   >>>>>>gnat these days.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59   
   >>>>>>game)   
   >>>>>>     43.50   
   >>>>>>     2.26   
   >>>>>>     4.25   
   >>>>>>     24.54   
   >>>>>>     6.18   
   >>>>>>     33.38   
   >>>>>>     21.55   
   >>>>>>     53.55   
   >>>>>>     10.43   
   >>>>>>     28.28   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same   
   >>>>>draw.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>No that's overall   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>     19.25   
   >>>>>>     15.28   
   >>>>>>     24.59   
   >>>>>>     2.24   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other   
   >>>>>popular pairs sum to close to 60?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>No.  The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum.  Imagine a mix of   
   >>>>Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps.  This newsgroup   
   >>>>doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture.   The gaps, where a   
   >>>>Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night.  The   
   >>>>player could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of   
   >>>>>>the 6/59 game.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Is there any mileage in it?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>MJ   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk   
   >>>>>6/59 and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I'd not heard that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Nigel   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>"nigel"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Hi MJ,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past   
   >>>>>>>draws   
   >>>>>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next   
   >>>>>>>draw.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying   
   >>>>>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat   
   >>>>>>>numbers   
   >>>>>>>than others?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Nigel   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two   
   >>>>>>>>to   
   >>>>>>>>make   
   >>>>>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it.  That "variable" did win one   
   >>>>>>>>year,   
   >>>>>>>>but   
   >>>>>>>>crashed badly this.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
      
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