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   From: user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Joshua Kreitzer  posted:   
      
   > On 8/11/2025 12:23 PM, James Dow Allen wrote:   
   > >   
   > > I'm thinking of two men, unrelated to each other.   
   > > Can you identify them from the clues?   
   > > (No Googling please; These puzzles may have been posted before.)   
   > >   
   > > (1) Each of the two men created a famous phrase that might be described   
   > >     as a political prediction.   
   > > (2) Neither of the two men ever won a Nobel prize.   
   > > (3) Each of the two men had a half-sibling who *did* win a Nobel Prize.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Hints:   
   > > Here are the two "political predictions" in an encrypted form:   
   > >   
   > > **  Betray a sovereign? The newlywed overvalued is.​   
   > > ​   
   > > **  Appreciate cure; buffoonery conquer; rhetoric amuses.​   
   >   
   > Answering in ROT13 to avoid spoiling things for anyone else.   
   >   
   > I believe that Arivyyr Punzoreynva had a half-brother (on his father's   
   > side) who won a Nobel Peace Prize. The prediction being referred to is   
   > "crnpr va bhe gvzr" nsgre gur Zhavpu pbasrerapr gung prqrq   
   > Pmrpubfybinxvn gb Anmv Treznal.   
      
      
   Congrats and Thank you!  One down, one to go.   
      
   (The prediction you cite is often misquoted slightly.)   
      
   The method I used to hide the famous phrases is rather well known, I think,   
   and rather simple.  Arguably simpler than rot13.   
      
   > I don't know who the other person was, nor have I solved the hints.   
      
   I know you did *not* solve the hints because *you* gave the   
   slightly-misquoted version of the famous phrase.  The hint reveals   
   the correct quote.   
      
      
   > Joshua Kreitzer   
   > gromit82@hotmail.com   
      
   Cheers and Valedictions,   
   James   
      
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