XPost: rec.games.video.nintendo, alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube,   
   uk.games.video.nintendo   
   From: chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com   
      
   On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:01:44 GMT, "Guest"  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Fry"  wrote in message   
   >news:4lgfplF1oeb8U1@individual.net...   
   >>> It's like the DS.  Same OLD games, new way of playing them, but not new   
   >>> gameplay.  For you to better understand gameplay, I suggest that you   
   >>> research the history of videogames.  Going from Pong to sophisticated   
   >>> gameplay shows you the evolution.  The last innovation was the analog   
   >>> controller and the GAMEPLAY that came with it.  It was not simply a new   
   >>> controller, but the GAMES had new gameplay that made use of the analog   
   >>> stick.  In that case, the GAMES and the game technology facilitated the   
   >>> need for the controller as opposed to the Wii trying to come with a   
   >>> controller without need.   
   >>   
   >> By your exact logic, the DS was the last innovation, since there are   
   >> several titles with completely new gameplay that simply would not have   
   >> been possible on any other system. Games such as Ouendan, Nintendogs and   
   >> Brain Training would not have ever existed were it not for the   
   >> introduction of Nintendo DS, and seeing as the Wii introduces yet another   
   >> completely new way to interact with games, and therefore will provide   
   >> completely new gameplay, providing developers think outside the box a   
   >> little.   
   >   
   >See, my logic states that the analog controller came about as a result of   
   >the 3-D games(although they attempted it earlier with the MAX controller),   
   >but the DS games cam about as a result of the DS.  This is the same thing as   
   >the Wii.  Games being made for the controller as opposed to a controller   
   >being made for s new type of gameplay.   
   >   
   the analogue stick existed long before games got even close to being   
   in 3D.   
      
   your arguement is akin to the chicken and the egg. you can't have one   
   without the other, it matters not which comes first, both are needed   
   for new forms of gameplay.   
      
   you seem a bit confused about what gameplay actually is. Sonic   
   Spinball is a sonic game, but it has completely different gameplay to,   
   say, Sonic Drift, or Sonic R, if you are using a different control   
   method, by common sense, you are experiencing different gameplay.   
      
   >>   
   >> Going back to my original point, Sonic may have a similar game mechanic to   
   >> before, but playing it with a different controller will deliver a fresh   
   >> experience, something which playing tarted up Tomb Raider on the 360   
   >> doesn't really deliver over the PS2 version.   
   >   
   >Playing it with a different controller does not change the game.  It is   
   >still the same game.  Besides, you have always had different controllers to   
   >choose from to play a game, but no one really wanted one.  I did not.  You   
   >keep talking about the games are the same on the 360 as far as play is   
   >concerned, but it is the same on the Wii.  The big difference is that the   
   >360 has (when put in use) mind-blowing graphics and the Wii just has 'not   
   >bad,' current generation graphics.   
   >   
   maybe it's the weekend of listening to deafening music in a field   
   whilst drunk, but that just sounded like bollocks to me.   
      
   if a game is released on PS3 and 360, chances are the gameplay will be   
   exactly the same as they both use traditional control inputs. however   
   the Wii offers up new gameplay possibilities which won't be possible   
   on the other two.   
      
      
      
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