From: weaponx013@yahoo.com   
      
   Bruce wrote:   
   > Scott H wrote:   
   >> Bruce wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> fuzzhead72@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> I'm selling the best strategy wargame ever released for the Sega   
   >>>>>>>>>> Saturn, "Iron Storm".  This was one of the few pure wargames   
   released   
   >>>>>>>>>> by Working Designs.  I'm starting out out on Ebay for just a buck,   
   no   
   >>>>>>>>>> reserve. (there are several others there listed for $32+)   
   >>>>> Your right about Dai Senryaku 7.I bought it about a year ago.I got it   
   >>>>> at EB Games.The only thing about it I really enjoyed was the   
   >>>>> price@$19.99.The game is similar to Iron storm except it has no   
   >>>>> historical significance.You cannot change history,as to how history   
   >>>>> actually unfolded.I like Dai Senryaku 7 but don't get the punch I got   
   >>>>> from Iron Storm.That is why I would love to see Iron Storm on the   
   >>>>> 360.Have you played Sniper Elite on the XBox?This is a great sniping   
   >>>>> game that gives you the chance to   
   >>>>     I haven't played Sniper Elite, it's going to be one that retains its   
   >>>> value though as the local stores can never keep it in stock.  People   
   >>>> love it, I burned out on FPS gameplay again after Halo briefly revived   
   >>>> my affections.   
   >>      It's no tthe viewpoint that has me burned out, it's the wonky FPS   
   >> controls that I'm sick of.  Some games handle it better than others,   
   >> but I'm basically just tired of worrying about headshots while rolling   
   >> around on a unicycle.  I'd rather have less crosshair control and more   
   >> character control (with current controller types' limitations).   
   >> Gunvalkyrie is more my style.   
   >>   
   >>>> Herzog Zwei is a futuristic RTS with transforming ships like Macross and   
   >>>> bases to build back-up.  As far as I recall, Iron Storm is turned based,   
   >>> You are right about Herzo Zwei.It has been a long time since I played   
   >>> it.I just put in on and played for a few minutes.I guess I have so many   
   >>> games and systems that I forget about some games,Ha!.I believe you can   
   >>> never have enough of each.Any way,if you like war games Dai Senryaku 7   
   >>> is not a bad game.It is turned base and does have it's moments.IMHO it   
   >>> has a fairly hard learning curve and of course it has no historical   
   >>> significance.You can play as 1 of 4 armies,red, blue, green, or   
   >>> yellow.You must occupy all the enemy capitals to win the game.You lose   
   >>> if the enemy occupies yours.The major down fall is that you play with   
   >>> modern armies,so in essence you create your own history without the   
   >>> benfit of history being already made before you play the game.Again you   
   >>> can't change history.That alone diminishes,in my opinion the fun and   
   >>> challange ofthe game. I hope to see Iron Storm brought forward on the   
   >>> new consoles.There would be so much more that could be added to the   
   >>> game,plus I think the company that brought it back would clean up in   
   >>> the sales department.You can get Dai Senryaku 7 probabley pretty cheap   
   >>> used.Like I said Ibought mine new for under $20.00.As far as Sniper   
   >>> Elite goes it plays in both 3rd and 1st person modes.It cycles back and   
   >>> forth between the two.It is extremley challanging and fun.Plus it has   
   >>> some cool cheats,like a silencer mode and a explosive round mode.Of   
   >>> course I only use them when I'm not serious about winning the game.I   
   >>> have played it on all difficulty modes and believe me,I am a war   
   >>> veteran, the hard mode is extremly hard.I hope you can find it.It won't   
   >>> dissapoint...Bruce   
   >> For that price, I should try to pick it up.  I have a feeling that   
   >> anything remotely Japanese on the first Xbox is going to be relatively   
   >> hard to find soon.  As for the historical aspect, I thought about my   
   >> statement after I posted it and it's silly.  Iron Storm isn't   
   >> simulating real battles, it's setting up grid based/turned based   
   >> battles and creating a resemblance to the battles in WWII.  So, the   
   >> appeal is an illusion either way.  I'd rather play a game because I   
   >> like how it plays, so Dai Senryaku 7 might be just as much fun   
   >> afterall.   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >> Scott   
   > I'm sure you would have fun with Dai Senryaku 7.It after all is similar   
   > in game play to Iron Storm.I have been playing Iron Storm for the past   
   > week.The only problem is I have to replace the batteries in all 3 of my   
   > Saturns.I have 2 Action Replays and 1 Memory Card Plus and not a one   
   > seems to work.If any one out there knows how to get them to work please   
   > let me know.I have cleaned  them but to no avail.Thats what I get for   
      
    From what I've seen, the Saturn cart port builds up carbon and needs to   
   be cleaned with something that can get the crud off the pins   
   periodically.  I used a folded up piece of computer printer paper (the   
   good quality stuff) and some rubbing alcohol, don't stop until the black   
   stops coming off.   
      
      
   > not playing my Saturn for about a year.Maybe a topic of the 10 best   
   > American gams for the Saturn would be worth a try.This system really in   
   > my opinion took a good verbal beating by a lot of people.I have played   
   > some great games and also some bad games released for the Saturn.Bel if   
   > your're raeding this I know you have a favorite list.These are my top   
   > 10   
   > 1-Iron Storm..For it's historical value, and replay value   
   > 2-Tomb Raider..Started a cult following..Not graphically as sharp as   
   > PS1   
   > 3-Daytona USA..For its time a great racer   
   > 4-World Series 98..Excellant Baseball sim,had best game play of all   
   > competitors.   
   > 5-Tie-Panzer Dragoon Series..All 3 are excellent shooters with the   
   > added rpg elementof Saga.   
   > 6-Astal..Beautiful side scroller,showed what the Saturn was capable of.   
   > 7-Nights Into Dreams..Showed how good the Saturn was with 3D   
   > 8-Pandemonium..This is a great side scroller with pseudo3D.I think PS1   
   > had it also.   
   > 9-Magic Knight Rayearth.Beautiful RPG.   
   > 10-Dragon Force..Great turned based war sim.   
   > All these are my favorites for 2 things[Fun Factor,and replay]   
   > I have others that are great game for the Saturn.These include   
   > Shining The Holy Arc   
   > Shining Wisdom   
   > Shining Force 3 U.S.A. version   
   > I own these games in my list.All my games are U.S. versions,with a   
   > total count of 67 games all boxed with instructions.If anyone would   
   > like to post their favorite Saturn games,it would be an interesting   
   > read..Thanks,Bruce   
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         I'd say that mid 60s is a good number of solid titles for the   
   Saturn in the US.  There are some stinkers from third parties,   
   especially ones that made their business to port PS1 games quickly over   
   to the Saturn's totally different architecture.  You just can't get the   
   type of games the Saturn has on it at quite the same quality on the PS1   
   or N64 (the same could be said of their libraries too, so don't blow   
   this out of proportion lurkers).  The only game off hand that I'd   
      
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