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   Re: CNET: "Why the Saturn was the worst    
   12 Feb 08 17:33:10   
   
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   XPost: alt.games.video.sega-saturn   
   From: bel@whipassgaming.com   
      
   > I accidentally posted my response in the wrong forum (darned cross-   
   > posting!), so please forgive me for re-posting it here.   
      
   Yup, that's Radeon alright...   
      
   > By the way, I CAN name 30 great Saturn games (U.S. domestic, even!):   
   >   
   >  1. Burning Rangers   
      
   I've still yet to play this one because Sega decided that Jesus didn't   
   love me enough for them to press more than 8 copies for the entire   
   continent of North America.   
      
   >  2. Daytona USA CCE Netlink Edition   
      
   I've got the Japanese version of this, it's the same as the Netlink   
   Edition, and it's great. I still shiver when I think about the   
   unfinished version SoA released in the states...   
      
   >  3. Dragon Force   
      
   I've always wanted to play this...but it's always so expensive when I   
   run across it.   
      
   >  4. Fighters Megamix   
      
   I remember foolishly trading in Fighting Vipers for this, thinking I   
   wouldn't need it anymore. Not to say that FMM isn't a great game, but I   
   loves me some FV. I think I played FMM for three months solid when I got   
   it...it's just so fucking good.   
      
   >  5. Fighting Vipers   
      
   I managed to pick up the import version of this a long while   
   back...gotta love that Pepsi Man.   
      
   >  6. Galactic Attack   
      
   I love this one, but the fact that it's impossible to beat on the   
   credits(or lack there of) had me selling if off recently, after I got   
   Taito Legends 2 on the Xbox, and the same said game via MAME. I love   
   playing all the way through this one with unlimited credits. Such an   
   incredible use of 2D sprite manipulation.   
      
   >  7. Guardian Heroes   
      
   Ah, the classic beat'em up. I've yet to run in to a person who hasn't   
   loved this one once I've introduced them to it. This is another one I   
   enjoy putting in the code for 99 lives and playing through with a buddy.   
   Still wish it was 6 player for story mode though(or even just 3)...   
      
   >  8. Iron Storm   
      
   This never really caught my interest.   
      
   >  9. Last Bronx   
      
   I had the US version of this, but traded or sold it off for some   
   reason(why, I don't know). I did manage to get the import version of it   
   much later on(and cheaper) though, and it still rocks to no end. This   
   has some of the best "fake" 3D backgrounds I've ever seen. That shit   
   looks incredible!   
      
   > 10. Magic Knight Rayearth   
      
   Managed to find this one at a local EB a while after the Saturn died,   
   and it was only $30 so I went for it. Played through it...thought it was   
     simply "alright". Traded it in at NCS for the Sonic Adventure 2   
   Birthday Pack. I stand behind my decision.   
      
   > 11. Marvel Super Heroes   
      
   Though the MAME version has spoiled me to no end, I do remember the   
   great time I had with this. This is another one that I foolishly sold   
   when I "upgraded" to MSH vs SF(again, not that it's bad, but it's not   
   MSH). I wasn't real thrilled with the slower gameplay(and slowdown) on   
   the Saturn version, but it was still an absolute blast to play.   
      
   > 12. Mega Man 8   
      
   I nearly nut my pants every time I hear the remixed BGM for Woodman's   
   stage(a Saturn exclusive). Damn good stuff...and a damn good game.   
      
   > 13. Nights into Dreams   
      
   Ah Nights, so very good in the air...so very shitty when you were on the   
   ground. I still really dig it, and need to go through it again(haven't   
   done so since I first beat it back in the day).   
      
   > 14. Nightwarriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge   
      
   Got this the day it came out and I'm still blown away at how much   
   animation Capcom managed to cram in there without the use of any RAM   
   cart. Like an idiot(are you seeing a pattern here?) I traded it off when   
   I decided to get Vampire Savior. Now, unlike every other time, I can   
   tell you that VS *does* suck...;)   
      
   > 15. Panzer Dragoon   
      
   I really wasn't *that* impressed with this one, but ever since I sold it   
   I've been pining over getting it back. I love the FMV sequences.   
      
   > 16. Panzer Dragoon 2 Zwei   
      
   This is where it's at! Man, SO much of an improvement over part 1. The   
   graphics are just incredible and it's so much fun to play. Makes you   
   wish they'd of gone back and played this one before making the   
   unbelievably hard Xbox version.   
      
   > 17. Panzer Dragoon Saga: Azel   
      
   Another one that Sega pressed all of 5 copies for the US. Guess who   
   didn't manage to get one?   
      
   > 18. PowerSlave   
      
   The shit I had to go through to even find this was an ordeal in and of   
   itself...but once I did find it, *wow*. I about passed out the first   
   time I saw an Anubis zombie throw a fireball at me. Lobotomy rocked to   
   no end.   
      
   > 19. Quake   
      
   Next to VF2, this is quite possibly one of the biggest achievements   
   *any* Saturn developer has ever had. To make this fully polygon game   
   run, and run as well as it did on the Saturn is nothing short of a   
   fucking miracle. I still remember talking to the guys at Lobotomy while   
   it was being developed...even they had serious doubts on how they were   
   going to get some of those levels to run. ;)   
      
   > 20. Saturn Bomberman   
      
   I played this briefly at the Lobotomy offices, they had a huge-ass 50+   
   inch DLP...made that 10 player mode shine.   
      
   > 21. Sega Ages   
      
   This never showed up in the US, as far as I recall.   
      
   > 22. Sega Rally   
      
   Good stuff, and slightly updated in SR: Netlink Edition(they added a   
   mountain in the second track, that's about it). The pinnacle of Saturn   
   racing, for sure.   
      
   > 23. Shining Force III   
      
   Never even saw this one on the shelves. I hear it's incredible though.   
      
   > 24. Shining the Holy Ark   
      
   Not that much of an dungeon crawler, so this didn't do a whole lot for   
   me in the pics...and I never did attempt to pick it up.   
      
   > 25. Street Fighter Collection   
      
   Fuckin'-a! Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold is *the* best SF title ever.   
   Still breaks my heart to see how bad they fucked in with SFA3. Wish I   
   knew my way around MUGEN, I'd attempt to import all the new characters   
   from SFA3 in to the SFA2G engine.   
      
   > 26. Virtua Cop   
      
   I bought this, and literally, played it for weeks and week and weeks on   
   end. I still have issues with my trigger finger due to non-stop mowing   
   down of anything that showed up on the screen in this game.   
      
   > 27. Virtua Cop 2   
      
   My trigger finger issues got even worse here, now I was dual wielding!   
   Another one I played for weeks and weeks. I *love* lightgun games!   
      
   > 28. Virtua Fighter 2   
      
   Probably the most technically impressive Saturn title out there. Ran in   
   the Saturn's high-res mode, blazed at 60fps and looked gorgeous doing   
   so. I don't think any other fighter ever got close to achieving any of   
   that....though FV may have...   
      
   > 29. Virtual On   
      
   Never played it in the arcade(the dual sticks were a bit much), but I   
   love it on the Saturn. Must have played this thing for a month solid,   
   going through every character. I even played it online, the Netlink Ed,   
   a while. Good stuff.   
      
   > 30. X-Men: Children of the Atom   
      
   Ugh. I hate the game, I hate the conversion. Seemed so half-assed on   
   Capcom's part. The animation cuts made it seem like a fucking PSX port   
   or something...   
      
   > I haven't even mentioned the not-so-great games that I still like,   
      
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