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   From: weaponx013@yahoo.com   
      
   frogacuda@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Apr 27, 12:51 pm, Scott H  wrote:   
   >> You're from the IGN boards, are you with IGN?  I ask because you   
   >> generally seem very supportive of them despite our previous conversations.   
   >   
   > I don't recall these previous conversations. I'm not an IGN employee,   
   > but I did write this article for them. You don't seem very aware that   
   > these articles are written by individual people and not some   
   > pluralistic borg-like entity. You see IGN at the top and you scour for   
   > faults, and the ones you come up with are, in my defensive opinion, a   
   > bit of a stretch.   
      
   I agree that I was being hypercritical of your article.  I had also only   
   recently completely written off IGN because of my previous attempts to   
   reason with the site's fanbase in Levi Buchannan's articles.  You were   
   in several of these discussions about 32X MKII and that horrid article   
   about sales figures deciding system wars.   
      
   >>  Hearing somebody who actually took part in the N64 or PS1 hardware   
   >> development say anything to corroborate Kalinske's speculation would be   
   >> great.   
   >   
   > Yeah, I'm working on it, actually. I'm doing a little follow-up   
   > research on my own time and interviewing more people, and I hope to   
   > throw some material up on Sega-16 soon. But you can't do everything on   
   > a tight deadline. It's not a book, it's just an article. You do what   
   > you can.   
      
         This is all I can ask.  Continued research and a willingness to   
   admit a previous statement was incorrect is necessary if we're ever   
   going to weed through all of this speculation and corporate nonsense.   
      
   >>      It is every bit as wild as the "historical fact" that the Saturn   
   >> was only going to be a 2D system with moderate 3D ability until Sony   
   >> came along.  Except in that case all of the historical evidence points   
   >> to the contrary.   
   >   
   > I haven't heard that from a credible source, but there's actually a   
   > lot of circumstantial evidence to that effect. Namely, the way Saturn   
   > handles 3D is very much built on top of the 2D engine in a peculiar   
   > way, suggesting that it may have been an afterthought.It manipulates   
   > the sprite engine (which is based, of course, on square bitmaps) to do   
   > its texture mapping, resulting in a a quadrilateral-based geometry   
   > engine, as opposed to the triangle-based geometry of nearly every   
   > other system. Not proof positive, I know, which is why I didn't report   
   > this story, but there might be something to it.   
      
   It would take an almost impossible amount of factual data to pop up to   
   prove this idea as true.  Sega had been ramping up its 3D software   
   production for years prior to the Saturn launch and had a rich history   
   in simulations and psuedo 3D before that.   
      
   > Now, it's true some of the claims made by Kalinske and Stolar aren't   
   > 100% verifiable, but that's why they're presented as quotes and not   
   > regurgitated as facts in the narrative voice. They're there for you to   
   > take as you will, but I'd think they're generally pretty credible.   
   > Kalinske's not real knowledgable about the finer points of hardware,   
   > but as far as the business negotiations go, I'd take his word.   
      
         When using a primary source one has to read in to some things, and   
   take other statements at face value.  Stolar hated the Saturn, numerous   
   interviews with him cite him stating that the Saturn didn't have *any*   
   good games.  This fact ruins his credibility in any discussion about the   
   Saturn hardware or software, leaving only his comments about his own   
   marketing scheme while he was at Sega as credible.   
         Kalinske's comments on hardware and software are similarly   
   questionable.  For the sake of the readers and their perpetual ignorance   
   they should be framed as unverifiable speculation.  As for his report on   
   his negotiations with various chip manufacturers, I would say we have to   
   accept that *something* was discussed but we know nothing of the details.   
         I apologize for being rude and hypercritical of your article.   
   This is literally the first time I have encountered any writer for a   
   major publication has ever been willing to discuss their findings in an   
   open forum.  This adds a great deal of credibility to you in my opinion.   
      
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   Scott   
      
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