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   XPost: alt.sega.genesis   
   From: bel@whipassgaming.com   
      
   >> I would love a payment of Genesis games!   
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   > Wouldn't that be something?   
      
   It would...and I've actually almost had something like that happen.   
   Working for my buddy, on RGA, he drags me to all sorts of buys and the   
   like. We've done trades as well, and have had people just show up and   
   dump a box of Genesis games in front of us for whatever it was Wang was   
   trading off. I ought to open a bank...give out loans and demand Genesis   
   games in return. It'd be called the "Bank of Genesis"...and I'd let my   
   cats run it...I'd just show up to the vault and sift through all the   
   Genesis tastiness.   
      
   Cat nip doesn't just work on cats, you know...   
      
   > Well, here we go with a long and complex thread :D   
      
   Good, this group could use it. I am going to cross post this to ASG as   
   well, just to keep it off the "dead" list(should have done it with my   
   first response).   
      
   > I think you're blaming the wrong people.  Nintendo fans love   
   > Nintendo.  So they get pumped over first-party titles.  There's   
   > nothing wrong with that.  It's actually quite logical.   
      
   Well, but that's not entirely it...sure, Nintendo fans get excited about   
   Nintendo's games, I get that...but they use that excitement to start   
   running around telling people how the SNES version of anything is better   
   than it was on Turbo-Grafx, or Genesis or Neo Geo, or whatever. *That's*   
   what kills me. Hell, I'm one of the biggest Genesis fans out there, but   
   even I will tell you there are some games where the SNES version is   
   just...better. I dare you to find a Nintendo fan who is willing to admit   
   that about any game that shows up on other platforms.   
      
   > It's the Sega crowd that doesn't get pumped over Sega first-party   
   > titles.   
      
   I don't know that that's necessarily true. Back in the day, when Sega   
   didn't suck, people flipped out for Sonic...hell the launch of Sonic 2   
   was an actual event(back when game launches were a non-event).   
      
   > So what if Altered Beast is an inferior version of an arcade   
   > title?   
      
   Well, but inferior how? I've played both versions *extensively* and I've   
   gotta say, I like the Genesis version more. If nothing else, it's due to   
   the less-vicious AI. The arcade version is so fucking hard and cheap, I   
   want to just give up about halfway through the second level. Even at   
   it's hardest, the Genesis version is still fair about it.   
      
   I've been noticing this, though, ever since I started getting serious   
   with MAME. All these arcade game ports we'd get on the consoles, I would   
   play them and be thrilled to do so...but there was always that thought   
   in the back of my head that told me the arcade version was just so much   
   better. Now that I can actually sit down with these games and play   
   through them all, for free, I begin to see that a lot of the time the   
   console version really was better. Altered Best, Art of Fighting,   
   Captain America and the Avengers, ESWAT...all of these were better on   
   the Genesis, imo. A lot if has to do with the AI...these arcade games   
   were meant to eat your money as fast as possible, and it shows with the   
   way the AI just buttfucks you in to oblivion. It's just unreal   
   sometimes....but unlimited credits does help ease the pain. ;)   
      
   > It's still a better game than Mario Paint or Mario Party.  It   
   > should go for more than what it does.  I'm a proud owner of mine.   
      
   I agree...but that's the fate of the pack-in game. No matter what game   
   it is, it'll always go for less-than-nothing due to how common it is,   
   and the fact that retailers aren't supposed to be selling it at all.   
   GameStop is a great example of this: Find any given pack-in game there   
   and you'll see it for some insanely low price.   
      
   About the only exception to this, that I can think of, is both Super   
   Mario World and Super Mario All-Stars/Super Mario World for SNES. Both   
   still yield about $10 to $40 on ebay.   
      
   Bel   
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