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   XPost: alt.sega.genesis   
   From: bel@whipassgaming.com   
      
   > LOL.  I could picture the two of us meeting in the middle of the night   
   > in some abandoned scrap yard, wearing sunglasses and fancy clothes.   
   > We exchange a pair of briefcases, and then get in our cars and drive   
   > away :)   
      
   It'd be awesome! Then, of course, the Sony police would show up, scream   
   "Freeze and put your hands up in the air...and they both better be   
   holding a Playstation 3!".   
      
   > I have to say that I've always been biased towards the Genesis.  If   
   > nothing else, I like the controller better than the SNES controller.   
      
   Ugh...I don't know about that. My main gripe with the SNES controller is   
   the lack of four face buttons. Killed SF on the SNES for me almost(along   
   with that stiff-ass pad). That's why when SF was announced for Genesis I   
   was so excited, because along with it Sega announced the Genesis 6   
   Button Controller. I was so dying to get my hands on that thing that   
   when SF hit, of course I couldn't afford it as it was $70(though still   
   cheaper than the SNES version of the first one), I went out and rented   
   it just so I'd have an excuse to run next door to Target and buy the 6   
   Button Controller.   
      
   The only way the Genesis 6 Button Controller could have been any better   
   was if they would have added shoulder buttons(or, another shoulder   
   button if you count the "Mode" button, which a decent amount of games   
   actually used, and not just to switch the controller in to 3 button   
   mode)...and then the Saturn controller came along and did that...and   
   it's perfect.   
      
   I will give it to Nintendo for putting 6 face buttons on the N64...but   
   then, of course, they fucked it all up again with that hideous GC   
   controller. What the hell was that all about?   
      
   > So I can't really fault those who are biased the other way.   
      
   Well, everyone has their preferences, sure...but to run around and tell   
   people that the SNES is just so awesome, and that NO other   
   system...ever, could compete...that's right out. I mean, and I've sat   
   there and watched people do this, we're talking shit like some SNES   
   fanboy sitting there, with a straight face, telling you that the *one   
   player* version of Final Fight beats the 2 player, redone soundtrack,   
   bonus modes added version on Sega CD. Give me a fucking break, people. ;)   
      
   > Well, it's inferior in that it's not the "real game".   
      
   I can accept that...but, and I have to do it to you, you *do* agree that   
   *every single conversion of every single arcade game to make it to any   
   given system ever* is inferior then, right? ;)   
      
   > Yes, arcade titles are pricks.  But that is the way of things, the way   
   > of the force.   
   >   
   > We worship them, nonetheless   
      
   I think people who don't have access to them via MAME still worship   
   them. A lot of luster disappears when you sit down with them and really   
   dig in. One great example is RoboCop in the arcade. I used to dream   
   about this fucking game...played it *everytime* I saw it, rarely ever   
   made it past the first level, and if i did I *never* made it past level   
   2. There's a reason for it: The AI is so unbelievably fucking cheap it   
   almost ruins the game, even with the unlimited credits MAME provides.   
   Think about that for a minute: Even with unlimited lives, the ability to   
   just hit Start over and over throughout the game, as you die, the game   
   is still almost completely ruined by the AI. That's fucked up. I could   
   give you a list of arcade games like that, too...some of which had   
   console conversions that fixed the issue with less vicious AI.   
      
   Still, I do understand where you're coming from...when I first hooked my   
   old iBook up to the TV and started playing games in MAME I would just   
   freak out...couldn't stay in one game for more than 10 minutes, there   
   were just SO many I wanted to play, so many I remembered from the arcade   
   days, so many I really only ever got to see, never got to play. Then,   
   there are some that got less than stellar conversions(Mortal Kombat 1 is   
   a great example), where I still get excited to turn MAME on and play all   
   the way through...   
      
   Bel   
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