From: snag_one@msn.com   
      
   On 6/20/2019 10:42 PM, songbird wrote:   
   > T wrote:   
   >> On 6/20/19 5:52 PM, songbird wrote:   
   > ...   
   >>>     you mention that you are waiting for   
   >>> all the leaves to die back before lifting   
   >>> the garlic, but you shouldn't let it go   
   >>> that long as the tunics (wrappings around   
   >>> the bulb) may not be in the best condition   
   >>> if you wait that long.  you should instead   
   >>> lift it when about half the leaves are   
   >>> going brown and finish curing it above   
   >>> ground.   
   >>>   
   >>>     my garlic here isn't even close to being   
   >>> done yet, not much sun and too much rain   
   >>> i don't think there are scapes yet or they   
   >>> may just now be starting to form.   
   >>>   
   >>>     in the clay here i have to lift them   
   >>> or the tunics get discolored.   
   >>>   
   >>>     i have however, many places where garlic   
   >>> just grows and i don't touch it at all.   
   >>> so in case my main plantings go bad i have   
   >>> a backup source to start over again.  it's   
   >>> also what i did up and eat when i want   
   >>> some green garlic.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>     songbird   
   >>>   
   >> Thank you!   
   >>   
   >> About 1/5 of the leaves have started to die out.  I will   
   >> check at 1/2!   
   >> They already went to scapes, which I am currently munching on.   
   >>   
   >> Is scaping any indicator?   
   >    if you have enough bulbs growing you can pull one   
   > when about 1/3 of the leaves are turning and then   
   > see how it looks.  i think there is some variability   
   > within garlics that some may finish sooner than   
   > others and such.  once you get some experience then   
   > you'll know.   
   >   
   >    i've made the mistake of letting it go too long   
   > and that affects how well it cures and stores.   
   >   
   >   
   >> How about onions?  Wait for the leave to all die or half die?   
   >    i try to get onions out of the ground after a   
   > lot of the leaves have fallen over.  again it can   
   > be dependent upon what variety.  some need a good   
   > cure to store well so i want them out of the   
   > gardens and cured well before it gets too cool or   
   > wet in the fall.  most are done when it gets hot   
   > and dry here so that can be ok.  other onions do   
   > not store well so you want to eat them before   
   > they'll go bad.   
   >   
   >    for flowers the next season leave a few of the   
   > smaller onions so they can grow again.  :)  then   
   > you'll have all the seeds you want.   
   >   
   >   
   >    songbird   
      
      When is a good time to harvest those seeds ? I have several bunching   
   onions in bloom right now , and I'm considering starting from seed for   
   next year .   
      
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