From: T@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 6/20/19 8:42 PM, songbird wrote:   
   > T wrote:   
   >> On 6/20/19 5:52 PM, songbird wrote:   
   > ...   
   >>>     you mention that you are waiting for   
   >>> all the leaves to die back before lifting   
   >>> the garlic, but you shouldn't let it go   
   >>> that long as the tunics (wrappings around   
   >>> the bulb) may not be in the best condition   
   >>> if you wait that long.  you should instead   
   >>> lift it when about half the leaves are   
   >>> going brown and finish curing it above   
   >>> ground.   
   >>>   
   >>>     my garlic here isn't even close to being   
   >>> done yet, not much sun and too much rain   
   >>> i don't think there are scapes yet or they   
   >>> may just now be starting to form.   
   >>>   
   >>>     in the clay here i have to lift them   
   >>> or the tunics get discolored.   
   >>>   
   >>>     i have however, many places where garlic   
   >>> just grows and i don't touch it at all.   
   >>> so in case my main plantings go bad i have   
   >>> a backup source to start over again.  it's   
   >>> also what i did up and eat when i want   
   >>> some green garlic.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>     songbird   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Thank you!   
   >>   
   >> About 1/5 of the leaves have started to die out.  I will   
   >> check at 1/2!   
   >   
   >> They already went to scapes, which I am currently munching on.   
   >>   
   >> Is scaping any indicator?   
   >   
   >    if you have enough bulbs growing you can pull one   
   > when about 1/3 of the leaves are turning and then   
   > see how it looks.  i think there is some variability   
   > within garlics that some may finish sooner than   
   > others and such.  once you get some experience then   
   > you'll know.   
   >   
   >    i've made the mistake of letting it go too long   
   > and that affects how well it cures and stores.   
   >   
   >   
   >> How about onions?  Wait for the leave to all die or half die?   
   >   
   >    i try to get onions out of the ground after a   
   > lot of the leaves have fallen over.  again it can   
   > be dependent upon what variety.  some need a good   
   > cure to store well so i want them out of the   
   > gardens and cured well before it gets too cool or   
   > wet in the fall.  most are done when it gets hot   
   > and dry here so that can be ok.  other onions do   
   > not store well so you want to eat them before   
   > they'll go bad.   
   >   
   >    for flowers the next season leave a few of the   
   > smaller onions so they can grow again.  :)  then   
   > you'll have all the seeds you want.   
   >   
   >   
   >    songbird   
   >   
      
   Do you wash off the dirt, which can be prodigious, or   
   just wipe them?   
      
   On the seeds, do you just cut the heads off when the seeds   
   start to harden?   
      
   How do you store the seeds?   
      
   And when do you plant the seeds?   
      
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