From: T@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2020-07-31 22:02, songbird wrote:   
   > T wrote:   
   > ...   
   >> I was thinking of digging out the two pots, disposing   
   >> of the contents, let the holes suffer the summer   
   >> heat, then over winter them.  Come spring, fill   
   >> them with peat moss.   
   >>   
   >> Your thoughts?   
   >   
   >    i'd never throw away organic material if i can   
   > help it.   
      
   I was concerned that it had some disease in it   
      
   >   
   >    hollyhocks are usually not that great when   
   > transplanted.  i suspect those pots aren't deep   
   > enough for them.  try some elemental sulphur in   
   > them and then plant something else next season.   
      
   Indeed.   
      
   Here is the thing.  I am very successful at   
   hollyhock transplants.  It is the one thing   
   I am good it.  Well, that and growing dandelions.   
   That pot is the only pot I have lost transplants   
   (3 of them) in over the last two years.   
   I am SNEAKY!   
      
   That pot has also killed four clipping of   
   choke berries and that is how choke berries are   
   propagated.   
      
   >   
   >    is there something else going on with those   
   > locations?  like do they get flooded more often   
   > or not at all compared to the others?  more light   
   > more heat, etc.?   
      
   It is just twp pots in a rows with multiple   
   others.  The pots on either side have no issues.   
      
   Over two years it have become obvious   
   that there is something wrong with the pots   
   and not the plants.   
      
   Sometimes, if I do not get enough rocks or   
   dig deep enough (tied of the rocks), pots   
   won't perform.  But when that happens, leaves   
   show signs of wilting, as it the were not   
   watered enough.  The leaves are not stunted   
   and strivel.   
      
   >   
   >    i'd use worm castings instead of peat moss.   
   > there's just not much to peat moss and i don't   
   > think it works well for arid climates.  around   
   > here i can create my own leaf mould or something   
   > that looks a lot like peat moss after it has   
   > been buried for a few years below a few feet of   
   > clay.   
   >   
   >   
   >    songbird   
   >   
      
   I add chicken scat based fertilizer to the peat   
   moss.  The main reason for the peat is to control   
   the high alkalinity of the soil.   
      
   Worm castings sound interesting too.  Do you have   
   a favorite brand?  Any mixed with peat?   
      
   One of the local composters sells a quart of worm   
   casing joy juice from 80 U$D.  I will pass.   
      
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