From: boron_elgar@hotmail.com   
      
   On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 08:49:18 -0400, songbird    
   wrote:   
      
   >Boron Elgar wrote:   
   >...   
   >> I need to try some other variety of thornless- problem is, I do not   
   >> recall what I have, nor did I by the time they started to fruit a year   
   >> or 3 after they went in.   
   >>   
   >> They fruit well enough, look great, but they do not have the deep,   
   >> wonderful flavor of the scratch-your-eyes-out old ones I spent so long   
   >> getting rid of.   
   >   
   >  there are a few things i'm willing to just buy at the store.   
   >raspberry seedless jam and blackberry seedless jam.  i like   
   >both of them but i don't want them very often and i sure don't   
   >want anything around here like a blackberry patch having seen   
   >what they are like out west.   
   >   
   >  acres and acres of blackberry brambles is enough to give me   
   >nightmares.   
   >   
   >   
   >  songbird   
      
   Well understood.   
      
   I used to have a wild raspberry of some sort. The stems were more   
   thorn than stem. Torturous things.The berries were enclosed until they   
   were almost ripe, but the fruit was so appealing to the wildlife, that   
   I never got any.  Been digging it out for 25 years.   
      
   The mean things looked a bit like this, plant wise, though the berries   
   differed.   
      
   https://www.edibleeastend.com/2014/07/26/wild-raspberry-season/   
      
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