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|    songbird to Drew Lawson    |
|    Re: Tomatoes, v2021    |
|    23 Jul 21 07:20:08    |
      From: songbird@anthive.com              Drew Lawson wrote:       > So I went out to the garden to check on just how much of a disaster       > it is (and it is), and discovered a double handful of ripe Black       > Plum tomatoes.       >       > I'd expected the tomatoes to be struggling, as I still haven't       > cleared the tall weeds that are near them. But they seem to be       > thriving on the neglect. Two of the cages appear to have leaf spot,       > but also have healthy new growth. So now that I've sprayed for the       > fungus they should recover nicely.               it's been such a strange year this season that i'm glad to see       anything on the tomato plants at all. it will be two weeks or       longer yet before we start seeing ripening. disease pressure       here also is starting off. i won't spray or pull leaves off or       mulch, i've tried all those approaches and it makes no sense for       me to bother. the plants all end up looking bad by the end of       the season but they've got fruits and we get results enough and       that is fine for me. i don't want to use fungicides in general       because all you are really doing is selecting for fungi that       can survive being poisoned and that's not a good thing. the       best soil community creatures for dealing with fungi are worms       as they are bacteria factories and the bacteria and fungi have       been in competition for millions of years. i vastly prefer to       let them keep sorting it out. :)               i hope for resistant plants enough instead and in past years       we've had some that have done better than other years. the       past two years the plants weren't as resistant as the plants       we previously (all are beefsteak varieties).                     > Although the plants got in the ground late, this is about normal       > for first pickings for me. In a week or two I may be wondering why       > I planted so many. I will probably dry some and see if I ever make       > use of them. And put up some plain sauce -- I normally do a seasoned       > pasta sauce with meat, but have lots on the shelves.               we had flowers pretty quickly after the plants went in the       ground but i removed the first flowers as those tomatoes are       usually very hard to pick off the plants as they are so wedged       in the branches and the tomato cages. this is the first time       in many years i did that just to see if it makes that much of       a difference. the plants are putting on some fruits now so       the bees have been doing their thing. i see some of the native       bees working those flowers, but also some good rains will ding       the flowers enough to get them to set fruits. and in a pinch       if it is hot and dry i'll give the plants a good watering as       we have to keep some water on the clay soil here or it will       start cracking and it puts too much stress on the plants       (which leads to BER later).               it's raining now so it's all working out ok so far.                     > I also want to experiment with some small batches of ketchup. I       > bought a bottle months ago and it is so sweet that I can't use it.       >       >       > Nothing yet for the beans or cucumbers, except for returning rogue       > vines to the appropriate cages. Lots of cucumber blossoms, though.       > And a couple finger-sized fruit. (Probably more hiding, but I       > didn't look long.)               cucumbers here were always productive and ended up having       more than we could eat or give away. we decided to not grow       any this year at all as we needed the space for other things.               beans i need to pick and cook some up, but i'm not picking       in the rain. Monday it is.               the chipmunks got most of my pea seed harvest. they hadn't       bothered these peas at all when i planted them last year so i       wasn't thinking i had to keep that close an eye on them and i       had a nice crop of seeds drying down on the plants. had i       known i could have picked the pods a few weeks ago and dried       them inside where it is safer... :( ah, well, learned that       lesson...               i was really disappointed the other day when i went to       pick some fresh pods for eating and saw all the damage of the       little boogers eating all the seeds out of the pods and       leaving all those pods behind. i salvaged what i could and       got enough seeds to dry down all the way and so i can       replant for next year but i was really looking forwards to       having enough seeds to share with other people. i really       like these peas -- so do the critters. now that the pea       pods and seeds are gone to tempt them i hope they don't       switch over to the beans, but i'll have to keep an eye on       things and have the air rifle handy. i've kept the       population down to a reasonable size this year so this       caught me by surprise. always sumpthin'... :) we've had       moles running all over this year under the mulch and       gravel and it's hard to trap those when you don't really       have any open garden spaces nearby that they've gone into.                      songbird              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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