From: songbird@anthive.com   
      
   T wrote:   
   ...   
   > Disclaimer.  I have a "black thumb".  Anything I say   
   > is instantly trumped by the experts on this group,   
   > especially Songbird.   
      
     i'm not actually that well educated about plants   
   compared to many here, but i do admit that i've had   
   some experience reading about them and growing them   
   in my life.   
      
     here where i am i think has some of the toughest   
   conditions aside from those who are out west and   
   trying to grow things in an arid climate.  arid is   
   much easier if you have a reliable and non-salty   
   source of water.  around here we have humidity and   
   water at times when you really don't need or want   
   it - like when your dry bean crop is drying down...   
      
     our little plot of land here is in a low spot,   
   the fogs and dews and cold air settles in here so   
   that it is rare that any plant is dry for long.   
      
     at least today has moderated in temperature and   
   humidity and it is near perfect out there.  this   
   is the first day in a long time that i've sat in   
   a chair outside for longer than a moment's time   
   and not felt like i'd rather be hiding inside from   
   the heat and humidity.   
      
      
     songbird   
      
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