From: songbird@anthive.com   
      
   fos@sdf.org wrote:   
   ...   
   > i'll get much closer to being self sustaining someday, Rome wasn't   
   > built in a day.   
      
     that's an interesting expression if you look at what Rome   
   did to North Africa and also the topsoil of much of Italy   
   and other surrounding areas...  well they basically turned   
   a lot of area into bare rocks or desert from removing so   
   much organic materials (to feed the citizens of Rome, etc.).   
      
     it can happen so gradually that people don't even notice   
   the changes, but it can eventually add up to destruction.   
      
      
     songbird   
      
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