On 2023-01-25, songbird  wrote:   
   > fos@sdf.org wrote:   
   > ...   
   >> i think it's a great idea too. i mentioned it to my wife and she said if   
   >> i did it in the house she's moving out. she has a fear of creatures   
   >> without legs. snakes and worms. it's a deep primal fear. even seeing   
   >> them on tv triggers her. i told her they'd be covered and wouldn't be   
   >> able to get out. doesn't matter, she'd know they are there.   
      
   >   yeah, some people are like that.  do you have a spot where   
   > you can put in an external cellar?  like the side of a hill?   
   > that is something i wish we could have here as we have no   
   > cellar space at all.  nothing good for root crop storage or   
   > even an out-building.  the water table here is so high at   
   > times that it's pointless to consider digging anything as it   
   > all has to be above grade, and several feet above grade is   
   > pretty much required in case of flash floods.   
      
   i don't have a place for an external cellar. i have excellent drainage,   
   just no place to do it and it may even be against municipal ordinances.   
   doing it outside means in an out building with heat in the winter. i   
   have some very well shaded areas where they wouldn't get scorched in the   
   summer. heat wouldn't be a big deal it seems. even in a shed i could box   
   off an area and use a small ceramic radiant heater. my basement is so   
   cool when i start seeds at the end of this month i use one in my faux   
   greenhouse else the heat pads are nearly contently on. i keep my living   
   space at 63-64F, the basement is mid 50s during single digit cold snaps.   
      
   >   the other important considerations with worm keeping is   
   > to not introduce invasive species to your area or gardens   
   > and if you are a fisherperson to not introduce them to the   
   > woods or streams just in case your area already has some   
   > unique animals you don't want to mess things up.   
      
   i was warned about invasive (jumping) worms when i contacted the local   
   agri extension for sources of composted manure. when i got a load i   
   checked it carefully. used it in my raised beds when i built them. had   
   spring worms hitch a ride home in a few bags of coca shell mulch. within   
   days of putting the mulch down we got a heavy rain and when i went in   
   back to see if any of the flower plants got flattened i was greeted by   
   zillions of them on top of the mulch. haven't seen them since though.   
   kind of freaked me out lol.   
      
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