From: michael.trew@att.net   
      
   On 8/1/2023 6:58 AM, songbird wrote:   
   > Michael Trew wrote:   
   >   
   >    when it shows up here it is usually on the tomatoes   
   > and only the first ones to ripen (because the plants   
   > did not have a fully developed root system while   
   > setting the first fruits) so i often can avoid the   
   > problem by removing the first flowers on the plants   
   > so those fruits won't develop.  even watering during   
   > the hot spells also makes a difference.   
      
   When we had the dry/heat earlier this year, I was watering the garden   
   heavily daily, or lightly twice daily (morning and/or evening).  That   
   was probably my mistake.   
      
   >> I haven't grown green beans in years, and I left many of them on the   
   >> vine too long.  The pods swelled up and became too firm.   
   >   
   >    some beans are ok to pick at the shelly stage (before   
   > the beans have started to dry out) and can be shelled   
   > out and cooked.  they should cook faster than a dry   
   > bean.  some varities of beans can also be eaten at the   
   > full pod stage but this isn't normal for a lot of green   
   > bean varieties.  or you can leave them to finish up   
   > drying and use them as a dry bean later or keep the   
   > seed for replanting.   
   >   
   >    usually i can get a few pickings from my fresh bean   
   > plants and then i'll leave the rest to finish as dry   
   > beans as we can never have too many of those.   
      
   Hmm, so you just let the pod dry out, and save the beans inside, using   
   them as you used baged dry beans later?   
      
   >>   My tomato   
   >> plants are huge, but I've only had a few ripe tomatoes so far.  Bell   
   >> peppers and banana peppers didn't grow much.  I don't have a single bell   
   >> pepper ready.  I haven't hardly looked at the other bed with potatoes,   
   >> onions, garlic, and horseradish.  I think I planted leeks this year,   
   >> too.  Watermelon, carrots, and a few other things I'm forgetting.   
   >   
   >    do you have trouble getting enough sun for your   
   > gardens?   
      
   The lower garden, everything but the onions/potatoes/garlic and the   
   like, is part-shade due to a large tree.  Oops.  Shame, because it's the   
   perfect location, otherwise.   
      
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