From: T@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 8/19/23 19:11, songbird wrote:   
   > T wrote:   
      
   >> Or, maybe a good wash off for any tiny aphids   
   >> or something else I could not see?   
   >   
   >    a good rain will help with aphids but better   
   > yet is some lady bugs or other predatory insects   
   > that will eat them.   
      
   I did not mention this, but when I first saw something   
   was wrong, I noticed the leaves had little tiny brown   
   spots like they'd been stuck with a pin.  I turned   
   over the leaves but could not find anything.  My   
   Goji's were attacked.  When I turned over their leaves,   
   I found a bunch of tiny clear  circles on then.   
   That is when I sprung into action with the 7th gen   
   dish soap and cayenne.  About 1/4 soap to a gallon   
   of water.   
      
      
   > also keep an eye out for   
   > ants herding the aphids (yes, they will herd them   
   > like farmers herd animals and harvest their   
   > milk or other products).   
      
   Oh no fooling.  And they aggressively attach you if   
   dare touch their plant.  My goji's, chock berries,   
   and bilberries all had ants all over them.   
      
   No more though.  Chuckle.  Guess they had a sweet   
   tooth for honey mixed with borax!   
      
   Fortunately, the aphids had not caught the attention   
   of the local yellow jackets.  Then you have to spray   
   at night, or be able to run like hell.   
      
   >   
   >    we potentially have many different kinds of   
   > aphids in our area but there are so many lady   
   > bugs that we rarely see them.  i've seen aphids   
   > on plants five times in close to 20 years of   
   > Agardening here.  there's a graying green type   
   > that like brassicas that i've seen twice of   
   > those five times.  i just pulled the plant and   
   > buried it.  they were weeds or random plants   
   > that were not true to type so i didn't mind   
   > doing that to them.   
      
   The pin pricks and all the ants make me suspicious   
   that the aphids were just too small to see.   
      
   >   
   >    insecticidal soap used according to the label   
   > will help if you do have bad infestation or it   
   > may also help to trim off some of the worst of   
   > an infestation and destroy those trimmings.   
   >   
   >   
   >    songbird   
      
   Since about two days ago, now when I water, I   
   blast the leaves.   
      
   Thank you for all the help.  I clearly do not   
   know what I am doing.   
      
   We have thunderstorm forecast for the next   
   week due to hurricane Hillary.   
      
   :-)   
      
   -T   
      
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