From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   On 5/29/2024 8:49 AM, cshenk wrote:   
   > Bob F wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/28/2024 11:04 AM, cshenk wrote:   
   >>> songbird wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> cshenk wrote:   
   >>>> ...   
   >>>>> For me, it's Norwat rats.  Occasional squirrels but they mostly   
   >>>>> ignore the veggies.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    there are not many squirrels here because we don't have   
   >>>> oak trees in the immediate area.  a few hundred feet and   
   >>>> there are a few but the hawks tend to get any squirrels   
   >>>> if they are in the open for long.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    i've gotten three more chipmunks and finally could not   
   >>>> find the raisin i was using to bait them - had to replace   
   >>>> it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    groundhogs do a lot more damage here to the gardens   
   >>>> inside the fences as they can get through or over that   
   >>>> fencing (Mom bought the wrong kind and i've not got the   
   >>>> funds right now to put up some different fencing that   
   >>>> would exclude them).   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    today we had a fairly young deer come through and i   
   >>>> was able to watch it for a while until it got to a spot   
   >>>> where i could scare it off.  i don't want to scare them   
   >>>> when they might panic and run into a fence.  at one   
   >>>> point it was looking into some pieces of mirrors we have   
   >>>> on one of our yard art works.  it was looking and then   
   >>>> sniffing at it.  i hope it doesn't come back.  we've   
   >>>> not had much of any deer tracks around recently so i'm   
   >>>> glad they've kept away.  i don't want any of them to   
   >>>> think that this is a spot to hang out.  we had a family   
   >>>> of three hang out here two years ago and they ate about   
   >>>> everything i had planted in some gardens that were not   
   >>>> fenced.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    songbird   
   >>>   
   >>> I've heard deer can be quite a pest for gardeners!  They are in   
   >>> parts of VB, but not where I am.  Even if they were, the 6ft wood   
   >>> fence would stop them.  We also get bears from time to time, but   
   >>> not near me.   
   >>   
   >> My father described watching deer, just standing next to the fence,   
   >> suddenly hopping over the fence in one motion. He had to go up to   
   >> 8-10 feet or so to keep them out.   
   >>   
   >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CCvl82Fk0o   
   >   
   > Those are probably the bigger ones right?   
      
   I would not assume that, but feel free to run the test and report the   
   results here.   
      
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