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   On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:37:54 -0600, "Del Cecchi"   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Good Soldier Schweik"  wrote in message   
   >news:eccbh5lu22uococ80cdr9vphg61qg0sa68@4ax.com...   
   >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:22:05 -0600, "Del Cecchi"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"Chilla"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:4b14d7e9$0$1781$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...   
   >>>> Steve Thompson wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>It was to do with a very large wasted steel knife.  I must admit   
   >>>>>>I   
   >>>>>>gave that knife a bagging, I didn't use the term "crowbar", but I   
   >>>>>>came close.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Say, if I file down 1/2 of a crowbar and give it an edge does   
   >>>>> that   
   >>>>> make it technically a knife?  Could I file a patent claim for   
   >>>>> such   
   >>>>> a   
   >>>>> thing?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Patent, not sure, but I am making a can opener our of a crowbar...   
   >>>> I   
   >>>> came from a comment about a guy using a screwdriver and a hammer   
   >>>> to   
   >>>> open a tin of peaches.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>Regardless the point in America is that a knife is pretty much   
   >>>>>>useless, as you can carry guns.  And we're not talking pop-guns   
   >>>>>>either.  Some of the street legal ordinance would be at home at a   
   >>>>>>minor military action.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It bothers me sometimes to think of all the crazy right-wing   
   >>>>> middle-American zealots running around with all that firepower   
   >>>>> and   
   >>>>> bad   
   >>>>> head work in such close proximity.  Say guys, don't forget to   
   >>>>> engage   
   >>>>> the safety on your pieces before you put them in your belts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Don't mind me, I'm just parroting stuff I've seen in American   
   >>>> Police   
   >>>> shows like "Cops" etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Just a question, what "can't" you get in the way of firearms.  I   
   >>>> saw   
   >>>> on Mythbusters the other day a 50 cal. rifle.  It made a big boom   
   >>>> :-O   
   >>>   
   >>>The main types of guns that are unlawful are fully automatic ones   
   >>>(machine guns) and shotguns with barrels less than 18 inches (sawed   
   >>>off or short barrelled shotguns).  I am pretty sure cannons and   
   >>>artillery pieces are also unlawful but I am not sure what category   
   >>>they fall under.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Actually it is not illegal to own a machine gun, at least as far as   
   >> the U.S. Government goes - but it does require a federal license.   
   >   
   >And said license which allows you to own late model full auto weapons   
   >is quite difficult to obtain, as I understand it.  The one that allows   
   >weapons before like 1934 is somewhat easier.   
      
   I think you are talking about the curio & relics license that applies   
   to guns made more then 50 years ago. I believe that the requirements   
   are very much the same as the other classes of licenses -   
   fingerprints, photos, etc., but I'm not sure whether the   
   investigation, if any, is different.   
      
   >> Some of the states laws are rather draconian though. In California   
   >> it   
   >> is illegal to own a firearm with threads on the end of the barrel   
   >> (so   
   >> something can be screwed on). they lump these in with the Assault   
   >> Rifles. This is to prevent installation of a sound suppressor they   
   >> say   
   >> - it also forestalls the installation of a muzzle brake in many   
   >> cases.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>We've never really had guns here in Australia, our population is   
   >>>>>>small enough that we don't need them for protection.  We don't   
   >>>>>>even   
   >>>>>>need knives for protection.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Rumour has it there's some special surprise legislation in the   
   >>>>> works   
   >>>>> for knife owners up here.  I can't imagine what it would be, but   
   >>>>> chances are it won't affect noisy psychotic man-children much at   
   >>>>> all.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Knives are too entrenched in society for them ever to go.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>Target shooters, farmers/hunters and collectors are the only   
   >>>>>>people   
   >>>>>>that want/need them.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Knives, apart from utility knives are really just for collectors.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>It's a different country with a different social culture.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No doubt your former shooting population has diverted their   
   >>>>> interest   
   >>>>> in firearms to more wholesome pursuits.  Is it still popular to   
   >>>>> tie   
   >>>>> an   
   >>>>> abbo to the bonnet of your car and then go offroading through the   
   >>>>> outback?  Or have they, too succumbed to the relentless march of   
   >>>>> liberalism.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The keen shooters, still have their guns, but under strict   
   >>>> controls   
   >>>> and regulations.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Tie an abbo on the bonnet?  Aboriginal jokes died out in the late   
   >>>> 70's. People still say them on occasion, but no one finds them   
   >>>> funny.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Well, as long as I get my steaks and beer, nothing else much   
   >>>> matters   
   >>>> ;-)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Regards Charles   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >> cheers,   
   >>   
   >> Schweik   
   >> (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)   
   >   
   cheers,   
      
   Schweik   
   (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)   
      
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