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   XPost: rec.radio.amateur.policy, comp.os.os2.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks   
   XPost: alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk   
   From: gchenry@panix.com   
      
   In rec.knives kb9rqz  wrote:   
   >On Aug 15, 2:27?pm, radioguy  wrote:   
   >> X-No-Archive: Yes   
   >>   
   >> After the ham got pulled over in New York for talking on a cell phone   
   >> while driving, which was really his amateur radio, amateurs in the   
   >> amateur newsgroup said the case was finally settled so it will never   
   >> happen to another ham in New Yotrk again since the New York cops and   
   >> judges now know better.   
   >>   
   >> Well, it happened again. Another ham was pulled over for talking on   
   >> his cellphone while riving. Explained that it was an amateur/ham   
   >> radio, not a cell phone. The cop said the same thing as before. That   
   >> amateur radio and cellphones are the exact same thing. ?And guess   
   >> what? It happened in New York again.   
   >>   
   >> Because he was holding the microphone which is using a handheld   
   >> cellphone instead of hands-free.   
   >>   
   >> Well, if they're the same thing, then the hams who were ticketed   
   >> should have told the officer they're not allowed to ticket, stop their   
   >> vehicle, arrest tghem, or prohibit them from talking on handheld cell   
   >> phones because federal law says both local governments and states are   
   >> not allowed to prohibit hams from talking on their mobile ?amateur   
   >> radio/ham radio gear and not allowed to make laws to prohibit amateurs   
   >> from taliking while mobile on their mobile amateur radio/ham radio   
   >> hgear.   
   >>   
   >> And since amateur radio and cellphones are the exact same thing, then   
   >> local governments and states aren't allowed to make laws prohibiting   
   >> hams from talking on handheld cellphonees.   
   >> TROY ? Amateur radio enthusiasts are abuzz on the airwaves over a   
   >> traffic ticket Steve Bozak received Sunday in Troy as he talked to his   
   >> buddies over the very same frequency.   
      
   The cell phone law is specific to cell phones. However..   
      
   New York State has a law that does not allow you to use a hand-held mobile   
   telephone  while you drive. If you use a hand-held mobile telephone while   
   you drive, except to call 911 or to contact medical, fire or police   
   personnel about an emergency, you can receive a traffic ticket and pay a   
   maximum fine of $100 and mandatory surcharges and fees of $80.   
      
   Ham radio and CB users are charged with..   
      
   Reckless driving if they intefere with other drivers.   
      
   "Reckless driving tickets in New York are quite serious for the following   
   reasons:   
      
       * They are criminal (misdemeanor) charges where technically you could   
   be sentenced to jail   
       * They carry five points on your New York driver license   
       * A conviction will likely result in your auto insurance rates being   
         increased   
       * Substantial fines will be imposed   
      
   The good news is that reckless driving tickets in New York City are not   
   heard at the Traffic Violations Bureau. Therefore, a favorable outcome via   
   a plea bargain can often be negotiated to avoid a criminal record, lessen   
   points and keep your auto insurance from being raised.  Dismissal of these   
   tickets is also possible when there is a defect in the original ticket   
   filed with the court."   
      
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