On Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:16:12 UTC+10, Hans Pans  wrote:   
   > Me too, the Victorinox Farmer- ribbed silver alox knife with saw- is   
   > on my stuff-to-buy-list.   
   >   
   > Kinda brings back to the old 'ideal sak'discussion'.   
   >   
   > For me it would be:   
   >   
   > Normal size Victorinox (pref with alu handles) and:   
   > 1:   
   > - 1 big blade   
   > - combi can opener/cap opener (Compact-style, only one tool)   
   > 2:   
   > - saw   
   > 3:   
   > - scissors   
   > Handles:   
   > - tweezers (toothpick can go)   
   > - pressurized ballpoint pen (whimpy? not at all)   
   > Back:   
   > - corkscrew (must drink wine now  and then) incl. mini screwdriver   
   > - reamer (not the 'no purpose hook' please)   
   The no purpose hook is good for lifting what we call in Australia, Billy Cans,   
   off a fire! Think of a tin can with a wire loop for a handle at the top and   
   you've got the idea.   
      
   So not quite so no purpose. You can also use it to with wire ties to tension   
   them.   
      
   Also the rucksack model, while it has the same tools, has the main blade on   
   the edge where the Forester has the main blade in the centre of the knife.   
      
   > - pin (used it for all sort of stuff)   
   >   
   > This all fits in a three backsprings wide knife so it would be pretty   
   > compact for everyday use. Ok, they never made alu handles with a place   
   > for tweezers or ballpoint pen but it was my ideal knife right?   
   >   
   > I bought the Forester some weeks ago, and it is a great knife for   
   > outdoor I think. It suprised me how sturdy the bigger screwdriver is   
   > compared to the screwdriver on the smaller-sized Victorinoxes. The   
   > locking is great.   
   >   
   > What I DISlike about the knife is the softness of the iron that lies   
   > under the Nylon handles. Maybe it is just as soft as the plates on the   
   > normal Vics, but because of the design of the bigger Victorinoxes it   
   > is much more easier to damage it (the front-ends of the handles   
   > stick-out a bit more).   
   > I dropped the kife on the street twice now, and both times it landed   
   > on the front-end. As a result the soft-metal plate that supports the   
   > handle next to the can-opener was bent inwards leaving some space   
   > between the handle and the plate. When opening the can-opener it   
   > presses against the plate, bending it outwards some.   
   >   
   > I dropped my ex-Explorer (lost it some weeks ago) and my superb   
   > Compact so many times but it never damaged the knives (but for some   
   > minor scratches on the red shells and who cares about that).   
   >   
   > Grtz Hans   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > "Odd Bod b'God"  wrote in message new   
   :...   
   > > "Mark South"  wrote in message   
   > > news:40c61c72$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...   
   > > SNIP   
   > > > I'd like it if Victorinox would continue extending their aluminium   
   handled   
   > >  line,   
   > > > and make a large lockblade with the "ripped alox" handle.   
   > >   
   > > Agreed - I've always liked the aluminium handled Viccy knives, in fact one   
   > > is number 3 on my purchase list (After a Spyderco Harpy and a rondel   
   dagger)   
      
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