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   J D Young to All   
   University of Idaho murders: Prosecutor    
   18 Nov 22 07:28:23   
   
   XPost: alt.military, alt.fan.states.idaho, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics   
   From: jdyoung2@ymail.com   
      
   Investigators are now exploring the possibility that more than one killer   
   is responsible for the murders of four University of Idaho students, as   
   police are on the hunt for a military-style knife believed to have been   
   used in the brutal stabbings.   
      
   Ethan Chapin, 20, Madison Mogen, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Kaylee   
   Goncalves, 21, were all found dead in an off-campus home in Moscow, Idaho,   
   on Sunday.   
      
   All four victims were killed with an “edged weapon such as a knife” – with   
   the murder weapon nowhere to be found and the killer or killers still at   
   large with no no arrests made and no suspects named four days on from the   
   grisly crime.   
      
   Latah County Prosecutor Bill Thompson told NBC’sTODAY show on Thursday   
   that it “certainly is possible” that there may be more than killer out   
   there.   
      
   “At this point, the investigators are looking at all possibilities. They   
   don’t have a specific suspect,” he said.   
      
   “We’re really hoping for any information from the public to help recreate   
   everyone’s activities.”   
      
   Over the last few days, police officers have come knocking at a local home   
   improvement store to inquire about potential sales of a Ka-Bar knife – as   
   they continue to try to locate the murder weapon.   
      
   Scott Jutte, the general manager of Moscow Building Supply, revealed to   
   the Idaho Statesman that officers have turned up multiple times but that   
   he has been unable to help as the store does not stock those knives.   
      
   Ka-Bar knives typically have a six inch-long blade with a smooth edge on   
   one side and a serrated edge on the other. They became popular with the US   
   military after first being adopted by the US Marines during the Second   
   World War. Today, they are popular tactical-style knives for outdoor   
   enthusiasts. While Ka-Bar is actually the name for the brand Ka-Bar Knives   
   Inc, the name is now used to describe any knife of a similar blade   
   pattern.   
      
   Mr Jutte described the blades as being “similar to the knife Rambo has” –   
   referring to the Sylvester Stallone character.   
      
   “They were specifically asking whether or not we carry Ka-Bar-style   
   knives, which we do not,” he said of the officers.   
      
   “If we did, we could’ve reviewed surveillance footage. But it wasn’t   
   something I could help them with.”   
      
   He added that the Ka-Bar is “more of a combat knife” whereas the store   
   stocks mainly hunting knives.   
      
   Moscow Police would not confirm or deny Mr Jutte’s version of events when   
   approached by the Statesman and officials have not confirmed the make or   
   model believed to have been used in the attacks.   
      
   As questions continue to mount about the quadruple murders, it has emerged   
   that the university campus was the site of another knife threat just two   
   months ago.   
      
   A group of University of Idaho students was allegedly threatened with a   
   knife by a man dressed in all black back on 12 September.   
      
   No one was harmed in the incident but officials felt the need to alert   
   students and staff to the threat – sending out a a “Vandal Alert”   
   described as a “Threat with Knife”.   
      
   On Sunday – almost exactly two months later – four students were found   
   dead from stab wounds inside a home on King Road.   
      
   The three female students lived together at the home with two other   
   students. Chapin was dating Kernodle and was staying the night with her.   
      
   Police had responded to the property after receiving a mysterious 911 call   
   at midday reporting an “unconscious individual”.   
      
   When officers arrived on the scene, they discovered the four friends – all   
   sorority or fraternity members at the college – dead inside the home.   
   There was no sign of forced entry, the front door was open and nothing   
   appears to have been taken, police said.   
      
   The two other roommates were present inside the home at the time, but were   
   unharmed.   
      
   Autopsy results are still pending but officials believe the victims were   
   killed at around 3am or 4am on Sunday.   
      
   Officials are refusing to say who called 911, why the caller reported an   
   “unconscious individual” when officials have described a crime scene   
   covered in “a lot of blood” and why it took around eight hours for the   
   victims to be discovered when two other students were home at the time.   
      
   During a press conference on Wednesday evening, police released new   
   details about the events leading up to the murders, revealing that Chapin   
   and Kernodle had been at a campus party on Saturday night while Mogen and   
   Goncalves spent the night at a bar in town.   
      
   They are all believed to have returned to the property sometime after   
   1.45am.   
      
   Twitch footage, seen by The Independent, captured Mogen and Goncalves   
   stopping by a local food truck for a late-night bit to eat – not long   
   before the murders unfolded.   
      
   The footage shows the two best friends arriving at the food truck at   
   around 1.41am.   
      
   An unidentified man appears to be walking with them, before he steps back   
   as they approach the truck.   
      
   Mogen and Goncalves go up to the truck and order food, while the man   
   stands a few feet behind them – before pulling his hood over his head.   
      
   Mogen appears to spot someone she recognises and walks over to a man,   
   hugging him briefly before returning to Goncalves’ side.   
      
   After ordering, the two best friends move over to the collection side of   
   the truck.   
      
   The mystery man who arrived with them follows and stands close by.   
      
   Over the next 10 minutes, the group of young people and students are seen   
   laughing and chatting away as they wait for their orders.   
      
   The man is seen chatting and laughing to another man in the line, while   
   Mogen and Goncalves appear to laugh and joke with each other and take   
   photos.   
      
   When their food is ready, Mogen and Goncalves leave together, walking away   
   from the truck and turning left.   
      
   The man, who was chatting to another student at the time appears to notice   
   them walk off and gestures at them, before he turns and walks away from   
   the truck, turning right – the opposite direction.   
      
   Police confirmed that they are looking to speak to the other people in the   
   footage – as four days on the killer or killers remains at large and   
   investigators are yet to identify any suspects. The man in the footage has   
   not been identified as a suspect or person of interest.   
      
   On Wednesday, officials said they have not identified any suspects in the   
   murders and no arrests have been made – as they appeared to admit that   
   their insistence that the public is not in danger may have been premature.   
      
   When asked how he could be so sure there was no ongoing threat, Chief Fry   
   said: “That’s kind of unknown... we still believe it’s a targeted attack,   
   but the reality is, there’s still a person out there who committed   
   horrible, horrible crimes.   
      
   “So there is a threat out there still, possibly. We don’t know it’s going   
   to be to anybody else. But we all have to be aware of our surroundings and   
   make sure that we’re watching out for each other.”   
      
      
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