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|    Rachel to Rachel    |
|    Re: Poems for April 20th (1/2)    |
|    22 Apr 21 15:52:10    |
      From: goldarachel@gmail.com              Btw, I apologize, that was rude of me, K., I just wanted to say I like your       poem. I don't really understand it...kind of an interesting concept, though,       to me, who is not familiar, I readily admit, with much poetry at all, never       really studied it much,        but relations between the mythical gods of different cultures....thanks for       sharing, and not leaving me there all alone with "my crotch hanging out" as       jodie foster says in the accused, talking about her gang rape. :-////              And also, I appreciate that it is something I can grasp, to read, and hear it       well. A lot of poetry is lost on me, especially in modern forms, and more       symbolic, less tangible, or "opaque," as my brother called it once in passing       during one of our calls.              Btw Zod, why are you just picking on me? Why not ask our old friend Just why       he is going along with it?              On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 3:45:09 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:       > Thank you, K., for joining in. I just wanted to apologize. I was instructed       to share uncomfortably, above my desire to receive for myself alone, and my       mother had always said to me, act as if, and fake it 'til you make it, and I       didn't feel that that        was honest or had integrity, and that's not who I wanted to be, and it       ultimately came tumbling out, all my anger and resentment, which I felt was       (and I was correct) honest, as I forced myself to finally share something       special, that I was saving, in        the hopes that one day I could show it to Bob himself, in person.        >        > So I guess maybe I just didn't understand what the instruction was all       about, how it would help me, to come back into this group, when I am so       ashamed, that Bob never comes back, even after all these years, and when I       need help, and I went running to        him, and now he is singing about it, and it never works out when I go back to       his house, and I don't know what to do about any of it. And I wanted to have       things to share with him, but I barely have anything now, he practically knows       me inside out after        all this sharing online, including in email, and he still hasn't come, and now       he stopped talking to me privately, too, and I am dying of loneliness and       boredom. And on top of that, my living situation is getting progressively       worse. And I really wanted        to have something to show him, so I was so pissed off to post a new poem, and       also, it made me realize, just how stupid it is, in the grand scheme of       things, how small, how insignificant, and now, I don't even think it is that       good at all.        >        > I just....didn't want to be fake, and post it as though I were proud of it.       I guess I thought it was good until I was faced with posting it in this group,       connected to, about, for, Bob Dylan fans. But I don't want to make others       uncomfortable either.        How am I supposed to share uncomfortably, and then like attracts like, and I       attract someone else who is uncomfortable, too? Maybe you know how they call       property real estate, what that real is all about....like the kabbbalists       might say it's fake. Or        you know how they say, what is that, the illusion of luxury? Like I have all       these creature comforts, but maybe it's fake, and the reality is, I have no       close friends, really. Not in person. Nobody in my "real life" is really       anybody to whom I relate or        connect well at all, coming from my same kind of background. I mean, I suppose       I have grown a lot (?), maybe, in being a more all-encompassing, accepting       person, but I do not wish to do this at the expense of my own well-being or       even things like        standards, as to what is okay, and what is not okay, like when bad things       happen to me, whatever they may be, to change my mind, and say to myself, oh,       this doesn't matter, this isn't important, it's all good.....that's probably       what the Jews in        Nuremberg were telling themselves as the new laws were progressively being       handed down, before they were shipped of ghettos and then camps.        >        > I have no idea how or why I met Bob, and now I have no idea how to get him       back, and this is a Dylan group...I don't know where else to find him. It's       not like he has a front door with a knocker and/or a doorbell, and I can't       believe he thinks he had        the right to sing about me, and drive me crazy, and not even come to help me       after he said he wanted me, and I've shared all I know how with him, and he       still won't come.       > On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 5:36:56 PM UTC-7, Just Walkin' wrote:        > > On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 1:55:57 AM UTC-5, Rachel wrote:               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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