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|    Re: The dice was loaded from the start (    |
|    16 Mar 22 05:47:20    |
      From: roffexx@gmail.com              ...              ..If one tries to recreate the origin of OP 57/68 we have to mention the most       precious discovery of the real cause for man’s wish for death, warfare,       weapons, cons and so on. - The discovery of the ally/ally instinct versus its       altered versions of the        ally/foe I/me self instinct. And one really has to recapitulate that the I/me       instinct is the most potent instinct, maybe only challenged in magnitude with       the libido. - No, the self instinct or drive is the most potent of them all.       And all herd animals,        human included, got 24 instincts if we consider both the active and the       passive forms of the drives. The self instinct equals our most wish to       survive, in all circumstances. - If we reflect on the for the moment ongoing       war between Russia and Ukraine, we        understand this in a profound manner...              If we also present primary historical events - concerning what we have       mentioned in the thread sequel “Coming home from work I-V” and this thread       here “The dice…” in RMD - at post World War 2. We may hint the origin       and the creation of the        military US/ SWE, and the half active parts of NATO/ UN/ CIA in, operation OP       57/68.              # 1945. The Pentagon and West Point Military Academy have one most probable       and important motto. - All wars accumulate. Meaning that the analysis and the       knowledge from the previous war is transferred till the next one.              # 1945-1955. The atom and hydrogen bombs technology is creating a different       form of warfare. - Asymmetric wars (for example use of ABC-weapons), high rate       of civilians involved, propaganda and ideologic primar weight. - The post atom       bomb epoch has        totally changed the historical manners of wagin war. To some extent one can       state that militarism after the nuclear weapon introduction became moral and       (rigid?) ideology. A most covert passus here concerning the, for the moment,       ongoing war between        Russia and Ukraine is that Putin probably got evidence for NATO being an such       moral defender. Who tries to mission to other parts and countries. - Probably       mentally via the cause and reason needing ally/foe instinct disposition. Was       NATO in knowledge of        this disposition? And was Soviet/ Russia also knowing? Probably both these       military opponents became aware later.              # 1947. The CIA, Central Intelligence Agency, is created not only as an       external spy organization. The CIA is also - originally - “covering” the       anti-war and the anti-nuclear weapon advocates who are inspired from the       horrors of WW 1 and WW 2. Such        as humanitarians, scientists, potent authors and philosophers. People like       Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer and Leo Szilard, among others, who all       these potent scientists later became convinced and advocated for a ban of       nuclear bomb technology. And        for example also the reading of Karl Marx’s literature was “covered”.       Notice the American Joseph McCarthy era between about 1947 and 1957 with       horrible and tough anti-communistic actions. The CIA probably was moreover       “covering” the media -        movies, art, newspapers, TV, radio broadcasting and so on - if tendencies for       anti-nuclear- weapon thoughts and ideas were expressed and became established       in the American population. This probably was the “hidden” original agenda       combined with their        official spying activities. - Furthermore, the rough and covert OSS was the       precursor to the CIA.              From Wikipedia:       “The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was the intelligence agency of the       United States during World War II. The OSS was formed as an agency of the       Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) to coordinate espionage activities behind enemy       lines for all branches of        the United States Armed Forces. Other OSS functions included the use of       propaganda, subversion, and post-war planning. OSS was dissolved a month after       the end of the war. Intelligence tasks were shortly later resumed and carried       over by its successors        the Department of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), and the       independent Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).” End of citing.              So, OSS was the rough intelligence organization that during the WW 2 made       rough things against the Nazis. Hence with most probability the follower, CIA,       inherited such rough manners.              # 1949. NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organization, was originally created as a       political organization that tried to “keep the Russkies out, the Americans       in and the Germans on the carpet”, that is an early motto of NATO. Thus the       main following task        was to military cover and defend all ingoing members. In what manner NATO was       inspired by OSS and CIA at their “covering” and “defending” its       ingoing member states is at question when we now understand that “false”       warfare is originating from        the ally/foe drive in our array of instincts. Remember that the only legitime       warfare is the “covering” of one’s own territory, region or country. -       It’s rather easy to slip over the defense of the own land till a       historically rough OSS        subversive manner when the ally/foe gene is present.                      [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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