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   LeoK to All   
   Re: The dice was loaded from the start (   
   27 Mar 22 01:09:26   
   
   From: roffexx@gmail.com   
      
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   ..If one tries to recreate the origin of OP 57/68 we have to mention the most   
   precious discovery of the real cause for man’s wish for death, warfare,   
   weapons, cons and so on. - The discovery of the ally/ally instinct versus its   
   altered versions of the    
   ally/foe I/me self instinct. And one really has to recapitulate that the I/me   
   instinct is the most potent instinct, maybe only challenged in magnitude with   
   the libido. - No, the self instinct or drive is the most potent of them all.   
   And all herd animals,    
   human included, got 24 instincts if we consider both the active and the   
   passive forms of the drives. The self instinct equals our most wish to   
   survive, in all circumstances. - If we reflect on the for the moment ongoing   
   war between Russia and Ukraine, we    
   understand this in a profound manner...   
      
   If we also present primary historical events - concerning what we have   
   mentioned in the thread sequel “Coming home from work I-V” and this thread   
   here “The dice…” in RMD - at post World War 2. We may hint the origin   
   and the creation of the    
   military US/ SWE, and the half active parts of NATO/ UN/ CIA in, operation OP   
   57/68.   
      
   # 1945. The Pentagon and West Point Military Academy have one most probable   
   and important motto. - All wars accumulate. Meaning that the analysis and the   
   knowledge from the previous war is transferred till the next one.   
      
   # 1945-1955. The atom and hydrogen bombs technology is creating a different   
   form of warfare. - Asymmetric wars (for example use of ABC-weapons), high rate   
   of civilians involved, propaganda and ideologic primar weight. - The post atom   
   bomb epoch has    
   totally changed the historical manners of wagin war. To some extent one can   
   state that militarism after the nuclear weapon introduction became moral and   
   (rigid?) ideology. A most covert passus here concerning the, for the moment,   
   ongoing war between    
   Russia and Ukraine is that Putin probably got evidence for NATO being an such   
   moral defender. Who tries to mission to other parts and countries. - Probably   
   mentally via the cause and reason needing ally/foe instinct disposition. Was   
   NATO in knowledge of    
   this disposition? And was Soviet/ Russia also knowing? Probably both these   
   military opponents became aware later.   
      
   # 1947. The CIA, Central Intelligence Agency, is created not only as an   
   external spy organization. The CIA is also - originally - “covering” the   
   anti-war and the anti-nuclear weapon advocates who are inspired from the   
   horrors of WW 1 and WW 2. Such    
   as humanitarians, scientists, potent authors and philosophers. People like   
   Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer and Leo Szilard, among others, who all   
   these potent scientists later became convinced and advocated for a ban of   
   nuclear bomb technology. And    
   for example also the reading of Karl Marx’s literature was “covered”.   
   Notice the American Joseph McCarthy era between about 1947 and 1957 with   
   horrible and tough anti-communistic actions. The CIA probably was moreover   
   “covering” the media -    
   movies, art, newspapers, TV, radio broadcasting and so on - if tendencies for   
   anti-nuclear- weapon thoughts and ideas were expressed and became established   
   in the American population. This probably was the “hidden” original agenda   
   combined with their    
   official spying activities. - Furthermore, the rough and covert OSS was the   
   precursor to the CIA.   
      
   From Wikipedia:   
   “The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was the intelligence agency of the   
   United States during World War II. The OSS was formed as an agency of the   
   Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) to coordinate espionage activities behind enemy   
   lines for all branches of    
   the United States Armed Forces. Other OSS functions included the use of   
   propaganda, subversion, and post-war planning. OSS was dissolved a month after   
   the end of the war. Intelligence tasks were shortly later resumed and carried   
   over by its successors    
   the Department of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), and the   
   independent Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).” End of citing.   
      
   So, OSS was the rough intelligence organization that during the WW 2 made   
   rough things against the Nazis. Hence with most probability the follower, CIA,   
   inherited such rough manners.   
      
   # 1949. NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organization, was originally created as a   
   political organization that tried to “keep the Russkies out, the Americans   
   in and the Germans on the carpet”, that is an early motto of NATO. Thus the   
   main following task    
   was to military cover and defend all ingoing members. In what manner NATO was   
   inspired by OSS and CIA at their “covering” and “defending” its   
   ingoing member states is at question when we now understand that “false”   
   warfare is originating from    
   the ally/foe drive in our array of instincts. Remember that the only legitime   
   warfare is the “covering” of one’s own territory, region or country. -   
   It’s rather easy to slip over the defense of the own land till a   
   historically rough OSS    
   subversive manner when the ally/foe gene is present.   
       
      
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