From: JustKidding@comcast.net   
      
   On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:27:17 -0700 (PDT), "Just Walkin'"   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:15:45 AM UTC-5, Rachel wrote:   
   >> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:48:08 AM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:   
   >> > On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 11:07:09 AM UTC-7, Just Kidding wrote:   
   >> > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:44:58 -0700 (PDT), Rachel   
   >> > >   
   >> > > >ever used dylan lyrics to help inspire them to diet...?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > >i was just craving ice cream, and i found myself thinking, "for   
   pleasure you now must resist." (actually, i put the now before you, but   
   whatever)   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > >i thought that might be an interesting topic.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > >anybody else ever use dylan lyrics to help guide them through some   
   kind of life process? and if so, what were they?   
   >> > > Everybody must get stoned.   
   >> > doesn't that give you the munchies???   
   >> actually i never thought that was about getting stoned, someone else in   
   college said it, which i thought sorta dumbed it down significantly. i guess i   
   forgot...(bad influences....like "like..." which my mother always hated,   
   called it a crutch, picked    
   up at the public school...along with dude and dudette, etc...learned of things   
   like frank zappa named his son and daughter dweezil and moon unit   
   respectively, which was enough to get a flavor just through word of mouth, and   
   hear about california valley    
   girl talk like gag me with a spoon, etc...)   
   >>   
   >> how did you mean it? stone you at the breakfast table? emotional murder?   
   kill the id? self-restraint? saying no causes more light? what do you mean?   
   >>   
   >> oh, wait. inspired to diet cuz you would get stoned, and got the munchies,   
   put on the pounds, then realized, this isn't working, i have to go on a diet?   
   sort of, it was the cause, and the actualization of the pounds made you   
   self-aware that you had to    
   lose weight?   
   >>   
   >> i was watching jewish tv yesterday for pesach and a young woman said   
   "actualize the torah" sadly i forget the context. i thought that was   
   interesting.   
   >>   
   >> i tried egg (and onion) matzah for the first time this year. it's   
   deliiiiiishus!!!! and this yehuda gluten free matzah is thin, and it's also   
   the tastiest regular matzah i've ever had, it's hard to believe it's legit,   
   it's so tasty, i couldn't help it,   
    i broke them both out, and ate half a box of each one, the yehuda one with   
   thin slices of jarlsberg. didn't even need butter or anything. they're chewy.   
   >Try making Matzoh Brei with egg and onion matzoh. Sweeten with honey.   
   >   
   >And your take on stoned is correct.   
      
   I would agree if I could figure out exactly what Rachel's take is. If   
   you mean it's not about getting stoned=high then I somewhat disagree   
   (althought that in no way means I'm correct). Seems to me the song is   
   clearly meant as something of a double entendre -- i.e., everybody is   
   going to criticize (stone) you, so you might as well just get stoned   
   (high).   
      
   There are two pieces of evidence to strongly support this   
   interpretation. The first is that when asked about the song, Dylan   
   said he would never write a drug song. Now who on earth would ever   
   believe Dylan's explanation about a song meanting?? The second is even   
   more irrefutable, and I must admit I learned it on the internets even   
   though in retrospect it's quite obvious: What does 12 x 35 equal?   
      
   'Nuff said.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)