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|    Willie to Rachel    |
|    Re: Question about Biograph (Mr. Tambour    |
|    12 Oct 22 16:58:52    |
      From: williamgwilliams@gmail.com              On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:       > On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:        > > On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:19:52 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:        > > > On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 3:09:16 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:        > > > > I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne.       Heylin's "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with       Victor Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New       Orlans for Mardis Gras:        > > > > "Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the       germ of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding       a tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship'       (Dylan's version of        Rimbaud's le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a       genesis he finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."        > > > >        > > > > I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three       CDs has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first       page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are       blank. Does any one        of you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes,       not just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about       that line and Rimbaud?)        > > > >        > > > > I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic       swirling ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that       the snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing       Rimbaud, and that one        could argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on       the song and was famous for playing a tambourine).        > > > sorry, i copied my biograph, and pilfered the unused booklet, so no       notes, but what is drunken boat? where is that from?        > > >        > > > cuz our ole archnemesis aj was transcribing the lyrics to dignity and he       wrote drunken boat, and i wrote him to say it was jerkin' boat (that's what i       thought, at least).        > > Hi Rachel!        > > Drunken Boat has some lines that remind me of yours:        > > https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/55036/the-drunken-boat       > i can't read the whole thing....but to me, it seems reminiscent of will, but       more fleshed out.       Yeah, I can't read the whole thing either. At least right now. C'est       magnifique en français. I do think Rimbaud would have loved your poems.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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