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|    K. Hematite to Hoyle Kiger    |
|    Re: Origin of quotation    |
|    15 Oct 22 06:18:59    |
      From: khematite@gmail.com              On Saturday, 15 October 2022 at 07:17:50 UTC-4, Hoyle Kiger wrote:       > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 3:11:07 PM UTC-5, khematite wrote:        > > On Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:44:36 UTC-4, luisb...@aol.com wrote:        > > > Bob Dylan asked his Paris audience whether it's true that "one Frenchman       is worth a thousand lives." Where does that come from?        > > Google it and you only get two hits, both of which are references to       Dylan's having said it during his 1966 Paris concert. I'd guess that in       Dylan's mental state during that concert he somewhat mangled the original       phrase "A thousand Frenchmen can't        be wrong." That phrase had also appeared over the years as "Ten thousand       Frenchmen can't be wrong" and "Fifty thousand Frenchmen can't be wrong." In       1927, Sophie Tucker's hit song codified the phrase as "Fifty million Frenchmen       Can't Be Wrong," and was        followed by the 1929 Herbert Fields-Cole Porter Broadway musical with the same       title.        > >        > > In 1959, RCA Victor borrowed the phrase for Elvis' second album of gold       records, titled "50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong."       > I would say it's more likely Dylan knew exactly what he was saying and       parlayed the expression into an attempt to compliment the French, perhaL                     Looking back on this thread five years later, I have to wonder whether Dylan       wasn't just twitting his French audience in response to its apparent hostility       to him. Perhaps he was making the point (rather hyperbolically--the ratio       obviously wasn't 1000:1)        that a lot of American lives had to be sacrificed to liberate France in World       War II--by some estimates, nearly 30,000, in fact. The war , of course, had       ended only twenty years earlier and was a lot fresher in people's minds at       that point. That        explanation would also tie in Dylan's remark to the gigantic American flag       displayed behind him on the Paris stage.               From Sean Wilentz's Bob Dylan in America:              "…the curtains part, and there they see to their horror, attached to the       backdrop, the emblem of everything they are coming to hate, the emblem of       napalm and Coca-Cola and white racism and colonialism and imagination’s       death. It is a huge fifty-star        American flag. And Bob Dylan, the emblem of American rebellion and       imagination’s rebirth, has hoisted it aloft.              "Was it a joke? But it is no joke…this Stars and Stripes stuff turns a       musical challenge into an assault, an incitement…In England, the idol had       traded insults with the hecklers, but in Paris, on this, his twenty-fifth       birthday, he strikes first."              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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