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|    Will Dockery to K. Hematite    |
|    Re: Question about Biograph (Mr. Tambour    |
|    18 Oct 22 14:42:21    |
      From: will.dockery@gmail.com              On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:28:13 PM UTC-4, K. Hematite wrote:       > On Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 18:09:16 UTC-4, Willie wrote:        >       > > I've always associated Mr. Tambourine Man with Bruce Langhorne. Heylin's       "Double Life" has this, though, about Dylan's trip in 1964 with Victor       Maymudes, Paul Clayton, and "scribe" Pete Karman that stopped in New Orlans       for Mardis Gras:        > > "Sure enough, he rolled into his room in the wee small hours with the germ       of an idea for a song about a musical muse, a Pied Piper figure wielding a       tambourine and offering the singer a trip on his 'magic swirlin' ship'       (Dylan's version of Rimbaud's        le bateau ivre - perhaps Arthur's most fabled illumination), a genesis he       finally acknowledged in the 1985 Biograph notes."        > >        > > I went to my copy of Biograph, but it has no notes. Each of the three CDs       has a two-page insert in the CD case that has the album cover on the first       page, and the CD track listing on the last page, but the middle two pages are       blank. Does any one of        you have Biograph? If so, could you check and see if your copy has notes, not       just blank pages? (And if your copy has notes, do they say anything about that       line and Rimbaud?)        > >        > > I'm curious about Heylin's claim. I'd thought about the "magic swirling       ship" being a reference to Drunken Boat, but I hadn't considered that the       snippet is "your magic swirling ship," meaning that the song is addressing       Rimbaud, and that one could        argue that Rimbaud is the tambourine man (even if Langhorne did play on the       song and was famous for playing a tambourine).       > I think one has to take Heylin's parenthetical reference as just his       personal thought about where Dylan's "magic swirlin' ship" might have come       from--not really a claim that Dylan himself necessarily made such a       connection. I think all Heylin meant to        say is that in his Biograph interview with Cameron Crowe, Dylan confirmed that       the genesis of the song involved "a Pied Piper figure wielding a tambourine"       (i.e., Bruce Langhorne)."        >        > Crowe's interview with Dylan was actually turned into a 36-page booklet,       with dimensions that allowed it to nestle comfortably in a vinyl box set.       That's the version I bought in 1985. The CD version of Biograph that I also       have has the identical box,        presumably so that the original booklet could still be included with the CDs.       In any event, that's not where Dylan's comment about "Mr. Tambourine Man"       appears. Rather, in the vinyl version, each of the five vinyl records       constituting the set has an        individual sleeve that prints Dylan's comments to Crowe, song-by-song, for       each album side. Here's, in its entirety is Dylan's comment on "Mr. Tambourine       Man":        >        > “‘Mr. Tambourine Man,’ I think, was inspired by Bruce Langhorne. Bruce       was playing guitar with me on a bunch of the early records. On one session,       (producer) Tom Wilson had asked him to play tambourine. And he had this       gigantic tambourine. It was        like, really big. It was as big as a wagon wheel. He was playing, and this       vision of him playing this tambourine just stuck in my mind. He was one of       those characters…he was like that. I don’t know if I’ve ever told him       that. I haven’t seen him        in a long time. I wrote some of the song in New Orleans too. I don’t,       different things inspired me…that Fellini movie? What was it? La Strada. It       was all sort of like the same thing, you know. Drugs never played a part in       that song...'disappearing in        the smoke rings in my mind', that's not drugs, drugs were never that biga       thing with me. I could take 'm or leave 'm, never hung me up.”        >        > So all that Dylan confirmed was that he thinks that Langhore inspired the       song. Nothing on Rimbaud--except in Heylin's parenthetical interpolation. I       think this might be the kind of thing that for many years used to generate a       lot of Heylin-hatred        within Dylan fandom. And probably still does.        >        > https://newrepublic.com/article/162533/whats-wrong-bob-dylans-       iographers-clinton-heylin-review              Good find, K.H.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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