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|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Forgery and Identity Theft flagged (Was:    |
|    01 Dec 22 05:48:23    |
      From: opbop1@yahoo.com              On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:03:09 AM UTC-5, fake Zod forged:       > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-5, K. Hematite wrote:              >       > > New York Times        > > By Remy Tumin        > > Nov. 22, 2022        > > Henry Bernstein has seen Bob Dylan 27 times in concert and owns three       items autographed by him: a copy of “The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan” album,       a photograph of the singer and a “John Wesley Harding” songbook. His       favorite song is “Tangled        Up in Blue.”        > >        > > So when Simon & Schuster, Dylan’s publisher, advertised limited-edition,       hand-signed copies of the musician’s new collection of essays for $600 each,       Bernstein was among 900 fans who went for one. Last week, he received his copy       of “The        Philosophy of Modern Song,” Dylan’s first collection of writings since he       won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2016, with a letter of authenticity       signed by Jonathan Karp, the publisher’s chief executive.        > >        > > There was only one problem.        > >        > > Karp’s signature “looked more legit than Bob’s,” Bernstein said.        > >        > > Bernstein was one of hundreds of fans who sleuthed their way around social       media, reaching the conclusion that the supposedly hand-signed books had not,       in fact, been signed by Dylan.        > >        > > “I got the nostalgia bug,” said Bernstein, who already owned an       unsigned copy of the book, as well as a Kindle version and an audio version.       He added, “If he touches this book — he wrote it, signed it — it feels       like the soul of Bob Dylan        is with me.”        > >        > > Instead, many fans suggested that the “autographed” copies of the book       had been signed by a machine.        > >        > > Justin Steffman, a professional authenticator who runs a Facebook group       for collectors, said the autograph was most likely created by an autopen. The       machine, which recreates signatures, is used by universities, celebrities and,       most notably, the        White House.        > >        > > Handwritten penmanship normally has a flow, Steffman said. But “with a       pen machine, it goes from point to point,” he said, adding that the       beginning and the end points of each stroke apply more pressure to the page.       Dylan’s autograph in the new        books also appears to have a “slight shakiness throughout the signature,”       he said.        > >        > > “It does not look like something a person signed; it looks like a       copy,” Steffman said.        > >        > > As orders began arriving last week, Dylan fans began comparing notes       online, and it quickly became clear that something was amiss, Steffman said.       Steffman collected images of at least 17 signatures that all looked as if they       had been created by a        machine. Items autographed by Dylan typically sell for $1,500 or $2,000, he       added.        > >        > > “They started popping up, everyone received them the same day and it was       instant — we all realized it was an autopen,” Steffman said. “More and       more people shared their copies, and we all put it together.”        > >        > > Steffman said Simon & Schuster’s customer service had originally refused       to issue refunds and had even denounced “online rumors” about the       possibility that the signature was a fake. Twitter and Reddit users also       chimed in; a chat board        organized by a fan encouraged others who had purchased the book to write       directly to Karp, the Simon & Schuster chief executive. Fans flooded his       inbox, including Bernstein, who, like others, received a personal response       from Karp promising a speedy        refund.        > >        > > By Sunday, Simon & Schuster had issued a public statement that offered few       details but acknowledged that Dylan’s signature had been rendered “in a       penned replica form.” The publisher said it would give buyers “an       immediate refund.”       > The Jew must come out        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^              Obvious forgery reported ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^°              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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