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|    Will Dockery to Pamela Brown    |
|    Re: Artificial Intelligence discusses th    |
|    09 May 23 10:08:36    |
      From: will.dockery@gmail.com              On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 2:28:01 PM UTC-4, Pamela Brown wrote:       > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:35:15 AM UTC-5, Pamela Brown wrote:        > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 12:51:05 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:        > > > Willie wrote:        > > >        > > > > On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:29:48 PM UTC-4, maya       ca...@gmail.com wrote:        > > > >> I was playing around with an AI Article Writer and used the topic,       "The True Meaning Behind Bob Dylan's 'Visions of Johanna'".        > > > >>        > > > >> Below is the unedited results:        > > > >>        > > > >> Bob Dylan is one of the greatest songwriters in history. His songs       are known for their clever wordplay, unique use of imagery, and dense       references to other works of art or literature. If you’ve ever listened to       Bob Dylan’s album “Blood On        The Tracks”, you may have noticed that one song in particular stands out       from the rest: “Visions of Johanna.” This strange and unusual tune has       baffled many a listener since it was first released as part of Blood On The       Tracks in 1975. Even though        it is only a little over four minutes long, this song manages to pack in more       riddles than most children’s books.        > > > >>        > > > >>        > > > >> What’s the Story Behind Bob Dylan’s “Visions of Johanna?”        > > > >> “Visions of Johanna” was composed by Bob Dylan in the spring of       1965, towards the end of the so-called “electric” period of his career.       During this time, he had begun to experiment with different instruments and       different ways of        performing his songs. In fact, he was touring as a full-time solo artist at       the time he wrote “Visions of Johanna”. As he had done with many of his       songs in the past, Dylan kept the meanings of “Visions of Johanna” very       ambiguous and secretive.        He didn’t even bother to write down lyrics when he composed the tune.       Instead, he just kept the song in his head, and would sing it to anyone who       would listen. Dylan later recorded “Visions of Johanna” for his album       Blood on the Tracks in 1975, but        he didn’t change or clarify the meaning of the song at all. In fact, he made       the riddle even more difficult by releasing it as a cryptic, 17-minute long       track.        > > > >>        > > > >>        > > > >> The Many Meanings of “Visions of Johanna”        > > > >> “Visions of Johanna” is one of the most cryptic, esoteric, and       mysterious songs ever written. It’s almost impossible to unlock the song’s       true meaning, as many different theories have been proposed to explain the       song’s hidden message.        Here are some of the most popular interpretations of this cryptic song: - A       sad tale of a failing relationship - A tale of unrequited love - A song about       infidelity - A narrative about drug addiction - A song about the death of       artist Sebastian van        Swagenburg. All of these theories have their merits, but many also overlook a       few details within the song’s lyrics. For example, some interpretations       suggest that the “Johanna” of the song’s title is a woman whom the       narrator is in love with, but        who is not in love with him. However, this interpretation doesn’t make much       sense, because the narrator of the song is clearly unhappy and disappointed in       the relationship. He even wonders if he will “ever see her again” and if       the relationship        between the two of them was “real or just a vision”.        > > > >>        > > > >>        > > > >> Don’t Be Fooled By The Lyrics        > > > >> Dylan’s lyrics are full of double meanings, wordplay, and complex       imagery. However, they don’t necessarily have to be interpreted in a       romantic way. For example, the word “visions” in the title doesn’t have       to be referring to feelings        of love. It could just as likely be referring to a hallucination of drugs or       alcohol. Furthermore, the “picture in the ether” that the narrator       describes could be interpreted as an image or painting in the artist’s head.       The “ether” is a word        that was commonly used in the 1890s to describe the upper atmosphere. It was       also used to describe the luminescence or brightness that an image would have       once it was projected into the air.        > > > >>        > > > >>        > > > >> The True Meaning of the Song        > > > >> “Visions of Johanna” was inspired by artist Sebastian van       Swagenburg’s painting “The Painter”. This painting features a man       sitting in a dark room, with a woman wearing a white dress standing in the       shadows behind him. This painting is        currently on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City. The       narrator of the song is clearly the man sitting in the dark room, while       “Johanna” is the woman in the shadows. The “picture in the ether” that       the narrator sees could be        the painting “The Painter”, or it could be the image of Johanna that is       stuck in his head. The narrator could also be “painting” the image of       Johanna in his head as he thinks about her. The “picture” or       “painting” that the narrator refers        to could also be a photograph, since cameras were first being invented during       the time period when this song was written.        > > > >>        > > > >>        > > > >> Final Words: A Beautiful Mistake        > > > >> Dylan’s “Visions of Johanna” is a fascinating example of how       great art is often born out of experimentation and mistake. In this case, it       was an experimental song-writing process that inspired one of Dylan’s most       famous tunes. This        experiment was flawed, but the end result was a beautiful mistake that has       inspired countless people since it was first recorded in 1975.        > > > > Pretty funny, and perhaps sad. I see AI content writers haven't       progressed much since I played with one in around 2015. I wonder if Google or       Amazon is working on one. Weird how this one got the album wrong and threw in       quoted lyrics that appear        nowhere in Bob's songs. These content writers crawl and steal content and       build a massive database which I assume includes the lyrics to VoJ, so where       they came up with those quoted lyrics eludes me. Five years ago people were       predicting these were going        to generate doctoral theses and perhaps produce some best sellers.        > > > I had an interest in artificial intelligence for a few years, but like       you said, it has failed to develop quickly enough.        > > It seems to me that any analysis of VOJ has to take into account the       Freeze-out (blackout)....               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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