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   Message 102,799 of 103,360   
   Willie to Will Dockery   
   Re: Is the December, 1956 recording by T   
   11 Dec 23 13:35:59   
   
   From: williamgwilliams@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 12:37:00 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:   
   > On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:03:06 AM UTC-5, Willie wrote:    
   > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:52:48 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:    
   > > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 5:37:54 PM UTC-5, Willie wrote:    
   > >    
   > > > > The book "Bob Dylan: Mixing Up the Medicine" has a section, written by   
   Lee Ranaldo, called "I Just Wanna See It" about the acetate disc Bob, Larry   
   Kegan, and Howie Rutman made in December, 1956 in Hibbing. I was surprised to   
   not be able to find    
   an online version of this 4-minute recording. It's not totally clear to me   
   from the section whether the Tulsa museum has the disc itself. Ranaldo writes,   
   "Finally, after tugging repeatedly on a few sleeves, I did get to see a images   
   of the actual disc,"    
   and the section has what looks like a photo of it, but has the caption   
   "Original painting by Duncan Hannah of The Jokers acetate recorded at Terlinde   
   Music December 24, 1956." Ranaldo then writes, "I managed to hear it a bunch   
   of times as well, across    
   many weeks." But it's not clear if the museum has the acetate locked away and   
   gave him access to it, or if they played a digital version of it for him, or   
   what.    
   > > > >    
   > > > > Does anyone out there know if there is a publicly available version?    
   > > > Sure makes me wonder.    
   > > >    
   > >    
   > > One thing I omitted from Ranaldo's section is that he says at first Larry   
   Kegan had the disc, but gave it to Louie Kemp, who kept it in a safe deposit   
   box for decades, then gave it back to Kegan just before Larry died. But   
   Ranaldo says nothing about    
   how (or if) it went from Kegan to the Tulsa museum. I posted this at Expecting   
   Rain, so maybe someone there knows more about it.   
   > Hopefully some copies were made at some point?   
   Nobody (yet) at Expecting Rain has mentioned a copy outside of the Tulsa   
   archive. Someone there said Larry Kegan's sister put the disc up on eBay with   
   a Reserve Price of $150,000 - $200,000 and the only bid was for $1. (Well the   
   ER post said the Reserve    
   Price was "150.000 - 200.000 Dollars," so I'm assuming that was $150,000 -   
   $200,000). Also, a post there said Bill Pagel was involved in the transfer to   
   the Tulsa archive. Not sure whether that meant Bill had helped Larry Kegan's   
   sister do it, or whether    
   he had obtained it himself from her first.   
      
   ER is pretty impressive; there's a thread there that has had 5,963,506 posts.   
   It's the one where you extend a conversation with a line or snippet from a   
   Dylan song. Like so:   
      
   What can I do for you?   
   There's something you can send back to me, Spanish boots of Spanish leather   
   I'm just thankful and grateful. But where are you tonight, sweet Marie?   
   I'm just sitting here beating on my trumpet   
   How does it feel?   
   And you're sick of all this repetition. But what's the sense of changing   
   horses in midstream?   
   It sure feels right, On a night like this   
   I can't help it if I'm lucky.   
      
   And so on. I think RMD did this before Expecting Rain started. It started on   
   ER in 2006. And one could, I suppose, page through all 5,963,506 posts if one   
   had a bit of time on one's hands.   
      
   The fact that Bob has put out enough lines to support 5,963,506 posts is as   
   impressive as how WUMB in Boston has a "Daily Dylan" slot at 5:30pm every day,   
   which has been going for at least 10 years, probably longer, and they claim to   
   have never repeated    
   a song version.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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