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   cheesetray to All   
   Re: WHY TO VOTE FOR KH FROM MICHAEL G. (   
   03 Nov 24 03:55:37   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   Trump would support limiting the   
    > use of the improper stratagems and theories used to try to   
   delegitimize the 2020 Presidential   
    > election.   
    > 10. I believe there is little doubt that former President Trump   
   failed to intervene and stop the   
    > attempted occupation of the Capitol of the United States for   
   several crucial hours on January 6th   
    > 2021. I believe we need to elect as President a person fully   
   committed to "protect and defend   
    > the Constitution" under all circumstances.   
    > Michael   
    >   
    > PART III THE ECONOMY CLAIM AGAINST BIDEN (and, by implication KH)   
    >   
    > Those inclined to vote for former President Trump often say that   
   the economy for them was   
    >   
    > better in the Trump years before the onset of the COVID crisis than   
   they have been in the post-   
    > COVID years of the Biden administration. By this, they generally   
   refer to the inflation in the costs   
    >   
    > of food, housing and energy. The implication is that the economic   
   policies of former President   
    > Trump created the better conditions during his administration and   
   that the policies of the Biden   
    > administration have created and are responsible for the recent   
   inflation and sense of economic   
    > crisis.   
    > I believe both of these conclusions are mistaken. First, the   
   relative low inflation from 2017   
    > through 2019, I believe, represented the results of the efforts to   
   stabilize and grow the economy   
    > by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve after the Great   
   Recession. I believe that   
    > little of this relative prosperity (including wage increases for   
   African-American men alluded to by   
    > commentators such as Bret Stephens) can be attributed to the   
   explicit policies or initiatives of   
    > the Trump administration (with the possible exception of some   
   modest stimulus from modest tax   
    > decreases for middle-class families in the 2017 tax legislation).   
    >   
    > On the other hand - and I think this has to be said very loudly and   
   clearly - the inflation in the   
    > post COVID period Is mainly the result first of the severe supply   
   chain disruptions due to the   
    > shutdowns, quarantines and restrictions on productivity resulting   
   from the need to contain the   
    > COVID virus. More recently, inflation has been exacerbated by   
   severe interruptions in shipping   
    > by the war in Ukraine and the wars in the Middle East, and threats   
   to the safety of maritime   
    > traffic. While the combined stimulus packages of the CARES Act   
   (passed towards the end of the   
    > Trump administration) and the American Recovery Plan (passed early   
   in the Biden   
    > administration) may said to have also been factors, these Acts I   
   believe largely saved America   
    > from a depression or terrible recession in the wake of COVID. I   
   believe it is also undisputable   
    > that the rate of inflation has significantly fallen in the last   
   year, largely due to the careful policies   
    > of the Federal Reserve augmented by the policies of the Biden   
   administration.   
    > Thus, I believe that voting for former President Trump on the   
   premise that he can better run the   
    > economy or restore the price levels in the first couple of years of   
   his administration is based on   
    > faulty assumptions and is gravely mistaken. The proposals for an   
   across-the-board tariff on   
    > foreign imports of good and technology proposed by the former   
   President is intrinsically   
    > inflationary and likely to reverse the steady if still incomplete   
   progress in checking inflation while   
    > working to increase wage levels.   
    > One of my disappointments in the debate during this election season   
   is that there has not been   
    > a more comprehensible discussion about the reasons for the economic   
   pain experienced by   
    > many Americans despite the state of our economy being what Heather   
   Cox Richardson calls   
    > "the envy of the world." I believe that the long-term   
   infrastructure, research and development,   
    > and capital commitment legislation passed during the Biden   
   administration is a major   
    > accomplishment that a Harris administration will sustain and build   
   on, but that a second Trump   
    > administration is more likely to undermine and undo by misguided   
   approaches such as the   
    > Trump campaign's tariff proposals. Thus, I think that voters for   
   whom the state of the economy is   
    > a major concern should be voting for the Harris-Walz ticket so that   
   the foundations for a strong   
    > U.S. economy laid by the Biden administration can be built on and   
   strengthened.   
    > Michael   
    >   
    > Part IV THE DO-NOTHING CLAIM AGAINST KH   
    >   
    > Former President Trump and Senator Vance have often suggested that   
   somehow Vice   
    > President Harris could have seen to the enactment of her policy   
   proposals and initiatives during   
    > the three years she has been Vice President.   
    > I think this suggestion is unfair - and very ironic as well - for   
   the following reasons:   
    > First, very obviously, the Vice President is not the President and   
   therefore has not had unilateral   
    > control of the Biden administration’s agenda.   
    > But more importantly, President Biden and Vice President Harris   
   have tried to advance some of   
    > the Vice-President's proposals and others that flow from a belief   
   in the power of government to   
    > maintain fairness and opportunity in our economic and social   
   systems. A striking example to me   
    > is the expanded childcare credit, which was passed temporarily   
   under the American Recovery   
    > Plan in 2021 but had to be pared back in the 2022 budget   
   negotiations due to opposition mainly   
    > from Republican lawmakers and, yes, a few Democratic or independent   
   lawmakers, especially   
    > in the U.S. Senate. Other plans to provide initiatives designed to   
   support workers in the service   
    > economy had to be scrapped because of opposition largely if not   
   exclusively from Republican   
    > lawmakers.   
    > To ensure that more of the proposals and initiatives proposed by   
   Vice President Harris can be   
    > fairly considered, refined, and implemented requires not only on   
   electing Vice President Harris   
    > to be the next President of the United States but also on electing   
   a majority of Senators and   
    > Representatives who understand the potential of government to   
   support economic security and   
    > encourage fair competition and a level playing field for   
   entrepreneurship and investment, be   
    > they Democrats, Independents or Republicans who are willing to work   
   with the Vice-President in   
    > pursuit of her goals for our country and its people.   
    >   
    > Michael   
      
   hey, did he even touch on healthcare ?   
      
   are we really going back?   
      
   VOTE VOTE VOTE   
      
   inflation reduction act....see, i was wrong. biden did it. sharp   
   spike, then just as quickly, he harnessed them brought it back down,   
   but, as we all agree, NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!....not quite all the way back   
   down at all, and THIS IS NUMBER ONE ON VP HARRIS' TO DO LIST.   
      
   federal ban, no price gauging on groceries.   
      
   etc....food, energy, housing....   
      
   dear g-d, please make this narcissism go away!!!!!   
      
      
   This is a response to the post seen at:   
   http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=677420142#677420142   
      
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