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   Abby Sale to bogus@purr.demon.co.uk   
   Re: "Uncle Rat" lyrics?   
   17 Dec 07 08:55:33   
   
   From: NO_SPAM_asale@ft.newyorklife.com   
      
   On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:24:39 +0000, Jack Campin - bogus address   
    wrote:   
      
   >   Kitty alone and I.   
   >   
   >And if you can make any sense of that you're doing better than me.   
   >   
   >The oldest known version is in one of Thomas Ravenscroft's collections   
   >from the 1590s; can't remember it offhand.   
      
   From the Happy File:   
      
   Entered in the Register of the London Co. of Stationers for 11/21/1580: "A   
   moste Strange Weddinge of the Frogge and the Mowse"   
      
   (likely 1st mentioned in Wedderburn's _Complaynt of Scotland_ in 1549 in re   
   an older song, at the time of the proposed (unpopular) marriage of Queen   
   Elizabeth I to the Duc d'Alenco.   
      
   Theodore Raph reports, in A Treasury of American Popular Music (A.S. Barnes   
   and Company, 1964), that the title in The Complaynt was "The Frog Cam to   
   the Myl Dur [mill door]."   
      
   Ravenscroft is available on line if you deeply want it.   
      
   --   
      
   Odd.  I always took the very common 'Kitty alone' refrain to be purely   
   USian.   
      
      
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